Err what have I got wrong? I plainly stated that this sounded like confused reporting by the journalist

Sorry, my bad.. when I am in hurry, I usually read only the beginning and the end of the paragraph.. 🙂 So the information which got thru was like:

Finally the Mirage.. Strange stuff, my guess would be Mirage F-1. 🙂

If that were true, what does your incessant trolling say about you? Honestly read your last few posts in this thread… impotent rage, all because Germany is moving towards buying the F-35.

There is no rage in my posts, just a mild amusement about how a troll like you immediately jumped on how Germans were already buying the thing and how they needed the F-35 so badly.. a country with absolutely non-existing offensive doctrine who were flying Phantoms as their main asset just few years ago.. oh, out of the sudden, now they can’t live without your “unparalleled situational awareness”..

But, similarly to the thing with my origin, you seem to know much better about how I feel than I do myself, so why bother..

Maybe it is time to consider why you are so emotionally invested in the F-35 failing…something that isn’t going to happen.

Failing in what sense? The huge domestic orders from all three branches of US military and utter lack of any competition have already decided the F-35’s fate long before it has flown.. too big to fail and all that.. from that standpoint, the F-35 surely will enjoy a long life..

Anyway, the F-35 has ended up to be a far worse aircraft that it could have been.. And that’s a failure with a quality all its own.. what you fail to see is that in the meantime, Russians and Chinese have presented designs which have good prospects to become comparably or more advanced and sophisticated than your premier fighter, to be IOC-ed just few years later than the pig.. When I look at the tremendous superiority the F-22 once had over the contemporary Flankers or Tornadoes and the “superiority” the F-35 will have over J-20 or PAK-FA, then I can say that the F-35 has safely eaten up 90% of your technical advantage.. if that is not a failure, then I don’t know what is..

but hey, it has beaten the T-38s on BVR exercises.. you can be proud 🙂

Ok Msphere. No interest in delving into this with someone who’s anti-American attitude is so venomous. Your views on people from the states is ignorance personified. Then again you don’t know what my profession is, so I’ll give you a pass on your offensive lecture.

There is nothing anti-American in my responses.. I just love to be lectured on local matters by individuals living halfway across the planet, having no clue.. I have, indeed, no idea about what your profession is and I am not even that much interested in learning that, as you have exhibited very poor understanding on Euro matters thus far, anyway.. It has generally nothing to do with your nationality, I would treat a Canadian, Brazilian or Chinese the same way..

One quick question, who is the politician leading the EU push for no relaxation of sanctions?

Frankly? No one.. Generally, there is hardly anyone among Euro politicians who exhibits vocal support for no relaxation of sanctions.. except maybe Tusk or Poroshenko.. Merkel is balancing on thin ice, trying to please multiple sides with contradicting interests. Ukros who are driving completely nuts, the US with a comparatively hardcore stance, her own foreign minister calling for an easing, chief executives of EU industry urging to back down completely, split population seeing no real sense of all this, increasingly resorting to votes to alternative (and often Euroskeptic) parties, etc. The outcome is pretty obvious – she calls for a dialogue, promising to lift sanctions gradually, after Minsk accords are implemented. That’s a far cry from being hostile, in my opinion.. note that EU has seemingly given up on Crimea completely..

I do, but that isn’t the point. Your confusing public support (predicated on economic impact) with that of the governments that have become very aware of Russian “activities”.

Governments are temporary, it’s public support what counts, in the end.. you can choose to ignore the will of 60-70% of your population on that matter, but then.. you reap what you sow..

Needless to say, given your predilection for all things Russian, it might be you who are out of touch.

An American willing to lecture someone on Russians and Europe.. LMAO.. get back to your Clinton vs Trump vs Sanders little backyard games, please.. 🙂

In any case, Merkel has turned decidedly more hostile toward Russia, and seems to be rethinking the gutting of German armed forces. In that context, the F-35 is being considered as a replacement for the Tornado. Whether you see the need or not, Germany does.

Merkel hostile towards Russia? First time I hear that.. and I am watching German news a lot.. just curious, what is the last time you have ever watched anything beyond FoxNews?

What LO experience did Russia have before ?

And exactly what “LO experience” do you need? Stealth principles are well known..

And what is the mission of the future Luftwaffe that the Typhoon would not be able to do? :confused:

No aircraft regularly operates with maximum loads. It can be done but has impact on the airframe stress and overall service life. Of course, a 9t rated aircraft copes with 5 tons of ordnance much easier than a 6t rated one..

Typical loadout of Rafales over Libya was two/four MICA IRs and two or three drop tanks.. plus six AASM Hammers on triple racks or four GBU-12s and a Damocles. That means anywhere between 4.7 and 7.2 tons. Quite impressive, although it has to be noted that much of that could be saved by using CFTs.

Well then there isn’t really anything to talk about because the one thing we can be sure he won’t do is just admit he was wrong.

True.. but for the life of me I can’t remember you having ever admitted you were wrong.. ever..

Once again I am left to wonder whether you are playing dumb. That article was a very basic examination of the feasibility of employing flares against an imaging seeker. What it showed was that under some circumstances they had the potential to be effective. One can expect the techniques employed in the real world to be quite a bit more sophisticated.

Oh, suddenly it’s just a basic examination.. because even your own source doesn’t suit your narrative.. so why post it if it has no informative value?

Here again… different countries, a different weapon, and yet they continue to invest scarce resources in developing new approaches against flares and foresee the potential to achieve “substantial improvement in weapon performance.”

Yes, different countries, different types and they still concentrate on… algorithms.. which means software, nothing else.. how is that different from what me or lukos has claimed?

Use your head, either IIR seekers are “virtually immune” to flares, or there is room for “substantial improvement” against them.

I am using my head.. it seems you don’t.. you are not reading that the 128×128 focal plane array is insufficient against distributed flares and we have to invest substantial resources in imaging seekers with at least VGA resolution, right? even with the modest resolution (128×128 FPA is hardly world breaking, in fact it’s low cost crap), the seekers are obviously OK as they are.. the only thing that is constantly being refined is software.. which means image recognition.. which means EXACTLY what lukos has claimed.. and what I have claimed..

Still not getting it? :confused: I don’t think I have energy to explain this once again..