‘Ground hugging Caravelle’….never noticed that but you’re right.
This is Caravelle demonstrator F-BJAO at Paya Lebar, Singapore during a sales tour 1963.
DT
Thats an interesting Caravelle…is that the prototype with GE fanjet engines?
OO-SOC Rollasons
A Brownie 127 photo in Rollasons hangar ,Aug 1957!
Interesting article touching on some points here, and a lot of background to the B-36:
http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/B-36-Bomber-at-the-Crossroads.html?c=y&page=1
The US Navy got their carrier borne strategic bombers, too, starting with the Neptune and the Savage http://web.cortland.edu/woosterk/navy01.html
Jeff, as JDK says and hence my reluctance to post them. If you go to the link posted by Longshot that will take you to the original online source of the pics.
Am I the only one who gets keyboard dyslexia BTW? I do worry about it sometimes!
Head Zup, thanks for that info, sounds incredibly thoughtful of the USAF to present Ken Wallis with that momento, met him at Farnborough once and he spoke of the B-36 with what seemed like affection.
pagen01….the links to the Flightglobal archive breakup (I can’t be bothered to use tinyURL which is probably the slick solution) for the original files go to http://www.flightglobal.com the LH column under historical images select post second world war…..page 5 and 6 have the B-36s
re B-36 deployments in UK apparently they used to bomb on the Heligoland range off Germany (I suppose with iron bombs?)….also they did Radar bombing runs on the London Bomb Plot, also known as the Heston Bomb Plot controlled and assessed by the 3903 Radar Bomb Scoring Sqdn in some huts at the eastern end of the Heston hangar complex ( in fact right by where Chamberlain arrived/departed) I think I saw a B-36 at medium altitude over Heston around 1952( the area had good radar returns apparently). Most SAC visitors used the Plot, as did the US Navy (AJ Savages coming up from Port Lyautey, Morocco and landing at Blackbushe), and also the RAF
Thanks Longshot i will do your search in a few minutes:)
As promised the feedback from LIFE.com copied word for word from the mail i recieved:-
Hi,
I work in the PR department at LIFE.com and we received your request. We have forwarded your email to our archive and edit departments and they will try their best to find this photo. If they can find it, we will let you know. In the meantime, you can try going to your nearest public library. The Reference Librarian may be able to search for the photo in The Readers Guide to Periodical Literature .
Thanks a lot and have a great weekend,
NatashaLongshot searched for “‘Margaret Bourke-White plane” thats a huge site with links to the National Archives and all sorts of things thanks:eek::)
Sorry Quid41….I’ll explain….. there is a Google hosted LIFE archive which went online last November and has 2milllion plus images at 1280 pixels wide…this is reached on
http://images.google.com/hosted/life
confusingly the Time-Life Corp relaunched LIFE as a sales photo website a couple of months ago(and I think this may be the one you contacted, and may not have the P-51 photo ) on:
http://www.life.com
this is separate from the first site and the online pics are smaller and there are less of them. I think
If you put US Bomber Command into the search box on the first site you’ll find the colour B-17 photos or directly the url is:
http://www.images.google.com/images?q=US+Bomber+Command&q=source%3Alife
P-51 photo on Google /Life archive
ok Life database has turned up nothing so i’ve queried them about the photo, hopefully i should get some feedback from them soon. I will keep you posted on that one.
Kiteflyer youve confused me slightly are you talking about the letter near the officers knee or the letter at the back near the star and bars?
The Littlefriends site is extremely good but is not complete, Admitedly i have used it to try and track down this particular Mustang.
There is no ‘Life archivist’ as such (we are the archivists! :))….. the photo is in a folder(see link) but there’s no info at all with it, and its most likely an Agency or Air Force photo print LIFE got hold of.Its worth searching ‘Margaret Bourke-White plane’ for WWII aircraft photos in the archive….lots of B-17s in colour, too
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=1939-1945+US+source:life&sa=N&start=126&ndsp=18
B-36
I gave up trying to send links to the Flight B-36 photos :)….plenty on the Life archive
searches B-36 and Thule should work, too
Wings over Woodley
Brian….I read a library copy a few months ago and I’m pretty sure there’s a page or two with pics of the M-52. Public library is probably the best way to get it….Wings over Woodley is almost as hard to buy as the Miles Putnam. The blockbuster Air Britain Miles book (Volume I) is out now but think the M-52 won’t appear till VolIII.
I think the M-52 should have been completed and flown (suck it and see?) but the X-1 programme had 3 features that were better thought out than the M-52….
1) it was dropped from a carrier 7-8 miles up
2) it was rocket powered….no air intake design problems
3) a glide landing to a generous desert runway perhaps simplified recovery
Ghana
Ghana came into being 6 March 1957 so are the dates correct? it was formerly the ‘Gold Coast’, a British colony. An Il-18 around 1965-1966 sounds a possibility?
Youre not in the same place.
The location Joe linked to was the location of the Fairey aircraft, the old Heston Aerodrome location was the Fairey Weapons facility. The area occupied by the BA Concorde club was behind (i.e north of) the old Fairey hangers, and not on the actual airfield. The airfield area (to the south-east of the old Fairey hangers) was built on with residential houses, the road names are all named after famous aircraft.
Heston airfield mainly lay North of the hangars marked FAIREY(Fairey Nuclear and Hydraulic, I think) in the 60s(and was about 2 miles S-E of the main FAIREY Hayes factory)The Brabazon estate with Aviation names (Bleriot, D-H, sopwith etc) to the south of Cranford Lane was never taken up as part of Heston airfield though there were pre-war plans to do so….it was still farm land in the early 50s.
Heston Airfield (WWII) was bounded to the south by Cranford Lane, to the west by Southall Lane (aka Tentelow Lane be careful theres another one near Greenford!) to the east by North Hyde Lane, Heston and to the North by Wentworth Rd (the notch in the south east corner formed by Berkeley Waye/School and the Vale was always there from the 30s, Google Collectair Woodason for some maps
The hangars were in a shallow arrow head pattern slightly north of Cranford Lane…. the still standing curved roof concrete Jackaman hangar was to the east of the now-demolished control tower reached by Aerodrome way
Sunderland rapide thread
Nice to see the photos still on the old thread(mostly!)…..deleted photos are an Achilles heel on this otherwise interesting forum
Here is THAT thread!:p
ET-T-35
Well done , wieesso…I hadn’t thought of Ed coates site! Its at the western end of the LAP (LHR) Northside ramp….behind the BOAC bus are the black sheds which became the ‘Green Dragon’ cafe….on the RH border is the edge of the Alcock and Brown statue I think.I’ve found a nose shot in an older Connie book. After the crash EAL got DC-6Bs
ET-T-35 Constellation
Brian….I think they flew just one L-749, and online sources indicate it crashed at Khartoum in 1957….I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a photo of it in the newish A-B Connie book(sold out)…I’ll check some other books tonight…Mick
Large scale models
I’m surprised there are less full scale non-flying replicas of peoples favourite extinct types…. there isn’t one (afaik) of the DH Hornet , though the painstaking restoration of a real one is a live project….the 1/4 and 1/5.4 scale flying models are seriously impressive (see link, includes youtube link)….guess the first step is to switch off that time-sponge computer and start carving wood!!……..
http://www.dhhornet50.net/index.php?f=data_home&a=8
P.S. my dream 100% non-flying model/replica would be the Heston-Napier ‘Racer’!
All though this could go on a couple of other threads, its also applicable to this one.
i just bought off ebay, a model of the Dh museums comet ‘NX looks very similar to one shown earlier in the thread
Will
Does the cutaway model have a manufacturers name or symbol anywhere?