I see the final paragraph of the ‘Just Giving’ page on the FAAM website has been changed, and now says this-
An informal agreement was reached between Bluebird Project and FAAM for the reconstruction of a test section, to explore what could be done. A splendid piece of work resulted in the rebuilt tail section being completed by the end of 2014. This arrangement with BlueBird Project is now concluded and the work has been brought back in house to continue with the reconstruction.
Oh, so now we were only ever building ‘a test section’?! That’ll be why further to our original work on the tail- comprising the vertical fin, horizontal tailplane, such elevator sections as remained and the associated fuselage frame that mounts the tail wheel, and the wheel itself- they undertook, as Bill has mentioned, to disassemble and deliver the entire aft fuselage sections of DP872 and LS931 and assorted other bits to our premises as recently as late October.
Compare the first line of their paragraph above, with this-
It is planned that each piece of aircraft will in turn be transferred to the Bluebird Project’s workshop in Newcastle
-which is taken from an older version of the same page, here-
A blatant attempt to rewrite history there, if not just an outright lie- and this from a national museum. Disgusting.
My PURELY PERSONAL view (i.e. NOTHING to do with FAAM or RN etc., and I would kindly ask everyone to respect that distinction): As I see it, this was an entirely PRIVATE matter. Bringing it into the public domain in such a way has, in my opinion, just generated a lot of largely uninformed conjecture which can only serve to make matters worse and in the process potentially may cause a lot of damage to ALL parties concerned.
A great shame that the moderators cannot see that and call a day on it, for everyone to simply shut up and allow things to take their natural course behind closed doors purely with those intimately involved. For everyone’s sake.
Lee, if I may, there has been no conjecture from our side, just a simple stating of the facts. And when facts are twisted if not outright fabricated in press releases and on BBC radio shows, I think we have a right to defend ourselves publicly and let our supporters/the wider aviation enthusiast community know what is going on. If we followed your approach, we would be royally shafted, lied about, and closed down- without anyone ever knowing why!
Purely MY personal view, of course.
Are these people for real? It’s the continual denial of our volunteer status that gets me- they’ve tried to do it by email/letter, then we had the press release last night, and the FAAM director STILL had the sheer gall to go on BBC radio this morning and try and do it again! Listen to the twisting, wriggling, deflection and outright falsehoods and judge for yourselves. A politician would be proud…
Bruce, while I fully understand the thing about threads being pulled- indeed, I just said to Bill that such a thing may happen- it could be argued that as nothing is being said here that isn’t the simple truth- by our side at least- one would wonder exactly WHY such a thing may happen…people in high places with too much clout, perhaps? But anyway, let’s hope it doesn’t come to that- what’s going on here should stay part of the public record.
Anyway, I came online to have my own say in reply to the frankly disgusting press release from the FAAM. Bill’s said much of what I wanted to say, and will no doubt say more, but I have to say that the whole tone of that release felt as if it was belittling our efforts- as if we were somehow just helping the FAAM with bits and pieces of something larger that THEY were doing. Yet, WE created the Barracuda Project website, from nothing. WE do 99.9% of the work- all that’s essentially happened in Yeovilton was the initial laying out of the total wreckage- and the subsequent preparation work to ship it to us. WE have promoted the project to raise funds- indeed, just look how out of date the pictures are on their Just Giving page- we offered to administer that and keep it up to date, but the utter farce which that led to is another story for Bill to tell. WE did the diligence on all the known surviving Barracuda wrecks, and a few new ones besides, with the view to future recovery operations to get whatever bits we may have needed to complete a totally original aircraft; that included wreckage both on high ground, in this country, abroad, and under the sea. WE planned and executed a superb mini-expedition to catalogue a fair quantity of Barracuda wreckage and recover parts. I could go on.
In the meantime, the FAAM seemingly did NOTHING to promote the project, bar the out of date Just Giving link on their home page; they have a Facebook page which they barely use at all- where were the monthly updates to promote the diary, the latest progress etc?
Isn’t it funny how they let us do everything I’ve mentioned for two years and only NOW want this contract? How do they answer the fact that we offered to negotiate the contract, and they simply ignored that and shut things down instead? Why did they go to the effort of shipping the rear fuselage sections to us literally just a few weeks ago? Why did the curator visit us recently and personally help us carry the near-completed tail section out into the sunshine for a look?
Having been privvy to the time frame of a lot of this stuff, and many of the emails too, I’d be amazed if a bunch of Admiral-this and Captain-that trustees were consulted and aware of the decision to shut the project down in such a short space of time- I think we’re more on the receiving end of one person’s own decision/agenda.
Lastly, I don’t think for one moment that the Barra Project will continue after this debacle- or if it does, expect to see great big chunks of fakery being clashed together and called a Barracuda. We’d have delivered a machine that was 100% original material- they have now thrown that possibility away in the name of very petty politics, be they business or personal.
I say again- some people in Yeovilton should be very, very ashamed of themselves tonight.
I’ve not been as hands-on with the Barra as some have, though I co-built the elevator with Bill in the early days, did a lot of background research and website type things, and always knew it was there to drop on to whenever K7 got quiet(!).
The Barra is a massive hole in the FAAM’s collection, and to all intents and purposes they were getting one- and an utterly 100% genuine one at that- for what amounts to, in aerospace terms, sweet bot-all. Even as a side, sister project to Bluebird, progress was swift and visual progress was rapid. Diary updates were frequent, promotion good, donations healthy. The people at the FAAM seemed happy with what they were getting.
And then, someone copped the nark and binned it all.
DP872 was hauled out of an Irish bog with the mortal remains of it’s three crewmen still on board- with permission of the families, on the proviso that the aircraft was rebuilt to honour and remember those men.
Someone down at Yeovilton should be very, very ashamed of themselves tonight.
I grew up regularly attending airshows and seeing a Vulcan displayed, balls out, on a sometimes weekly basis. I mourned it’s passing when the RAF retired it, and moved on. I was excited by the notion of it’s return, but the handful of times I’ve seen it have all been disappointing- a shadow of it’s former self, for totally understandable airframe and engine life reasons. Throughout all this, I felt that VTTS over-sold the type- it’s importance, it’s spectacle- to almost embarrassing degrees. Sad to say, I’ll not miss it when it is retired again- as I never felt that I truly had it back. I’m certainly not anti-VTTS, anti-Vulcan, a hater, or anything else that people get called for daring to be negative about it- I’m just being honest. (And yes, I’ve had my hand in my pocket for them nonetheless)
As for a ‘replacement’ type, I suspect the millions will vanish, and individual projects will just carry on scrapping about for cash as they always have. (Though I’ll throw in another vote for a Shack)
…and a You Tube update on the BBP too-
This tour will be remembered for a long time to come methinks…a delayed start to a then epic journey, the engine failure, now this incident, but all the while the massive public appreciation of them being here at all. God love them- glad to hear there’s no damage.
And if there’s a prize for the best looking aircraft restoration team then it surely goes to the riveting babes 😉
Rob
…they smell a lot better than the rest of us, too!
New diary, including a little sun for our Barra tail…
The LAHC has advised me that there will be no CWH souveniers on sale at East Kikby on Sunday. What a shame and missed opportunity – UK website delivery is 28 days, I think, plus P & P costs.
Alas, with things being particularly tight at the minute I just couldn’t justify paying £5.95 postage for a £5 programme!
Just to reiterate, I’d be very interested if anyone knows of anyone who worked at the yard in the late 60s until it was cleared.
Resurrecting an old thread to ask, I don’t suppose anybody knows of anyone who was working at Coley’s in Hounslow during the late 60’s do they?
Cheers! Was waiting for an announcement on their Facebook or whatever, must have missed it. Was hoping they’d have the Union Flag T shirt on there though.
Anyone know what’s happened to the Canadian merchandise going online for UK buyers?