Presumably this. Ex Southend.
http://www.cfmc-gb.com/fiat_g_46.12.html#Fiat%20G.46
Nice to see it coming back from the dead. It looked gutted beyond hope at Duxford in 1994.
Seeing the Concorde there reminds me of the ‘Concorde to the Sky’ group.
They were another organisation with a hugely ambitious vision. I must check their website to see how they are getting on.
If things are still on track, we should be seeing a Concorde over the Olympic opening ceremony.
yes it is true we have no airframe, no money, no home and no project team fully up & running! To some this approach will not sit well. So why this way?
Because it is a Peoples Project; a project run for and with enthusiasts whether hands on, hands off, armchair support or mucking in!
What you assume to be an asset, I would say is a liability. Running any project ‘by committee’ is a fast-track to nowhere. Everyone is equal, everyone wants a say, divisions spring up almost immediately, and with volunteer labour some will put in huge efforts, some not so much and resentment soon festers.
Think of the Canadian Y2K Spit, or the auctioned-off Shuttleworth PR Spitfire, for evidence of how these well-intentioned projects can be derailed. It always seems to come down to funding, and if that is not there, it will wither away, or be sold to someone with funding in place.
As to the ‘peoples project’ , I am trying to think of a similar restoration endeavour which has made any sort of mark, and am coming up with nothing. I keep getting stuck on the ‘Peoples Princess’ syndrome and all the hot-air and nonsense that went with it. A label, and zero content.
To use a volunteer/amateur workforce or perhaps the most technically demanding of warbird projects is, well, optomistic, to say the least. That is not to say that volunteers can never achieve anything, and I think of the Northern Aeroplane Workshop who have used decades of experience to construct outstanding aircraft such as the Shuttleworth Sopwith Triplane.
That project took years to complete, yet is simple in comparison to a DH.98.
For my money, the warbird project which goes the distance is probably conceived and steered by one individual, with the vision, the expertise and funding to see it through, people such as Nick Grace , who rebuilt ML407 from boxes of bits.
The preservation movement needs doers and enthusiasts much more than it needs internet naysayers, but I think to embark on an overly ambitious enterprise, and end in frustration and rancour, could do more harm than good.
I hope that the enthusiasm which has already been raised can be somehow put to good use.
A late response, but found details of this appalling accident, that took 12 lives.
This, on the same day that another Mosquito displaying at Lichfield crashed onto a hospital causing a further 12 fatalities.
It is a wonder that air displays were not banned on the spot. Perhaps the recent war had hardened attitudes to loss of life. Slow rolling at low level has taken such a toll over the years.
12 KILLED AT AIR DISPLAY – MOSQUITO CRASHES ON CARS.
MARGATE, Sept.19 1948 ( From our Correspondent )
Twelve persons, including three children, lost their lives when a Mosquito aircraft crashed on a road crowded with occupied cars during a Battle of Britain air display at Manston on Saturday. Three persons are in hospital with multiple burns, and two of them are in a critical condition. Six others were discharged after treatment for burns.
The pilot, whose wife saw the accident, had led a flight of three aircraft in high-speed formation flying before breaking away to give an exhibition of aerobatics. He had twice dived at over 400 m.p.h. and then roared past the public enclosure. Gaining height he began a slow roll from which he did not pull out. The machine crashed on a road crowded with people and cars. The petrol tanks exploded and burning debris was scattered in all directions, setting fire to several cars. The intense heat hampered the work of rescuers and three victims were burnt to death in one car.
One of the victims, Mrs. Gertrude ANDREWS, whose husband is with the R.A.F. in Malta, was cycling along the road with her three-year-old son in a basket on the carrier. Her 11-year-old son was cycling ahead and was unaware that his mother and brother had been killed until later in the day when he reported to police that he could not find them. Mr. Guy FARR, 33, a solicitor, of The Close, Wilmington, Dartford, his wife, and two young children had a fortunate escape. Their car caught fire and they were pulled out by farm workers. After treatment in hospital for burns they were allowed to go home.
The Mayor of Margate, Alderman W. J. PERKINS, to-day opened a fund to assist relatives of victims, and the local branch of the R.A.F. Association has promised a donation from the proceeds of its appeal made during the Battle of Britain week. At Margate Parish Church this morning, when a commemoration service was held to mark the close of Battle of Britain week, two minutes’ silence was observed for the victims.
The following is a list of the dead :-
Miss Marjorie G. D. ASTELL, 42, of Grange Cottage, Chislehurst:
Stuart Graham CHIESMAN, 13, of Calderwood, Chislehurst:
Frances Claire LEWIS, 13, of First Avenue, Kingsgate, near Margate:
Peter Charles SCOTT, 19, of Addiscombe Road, Margate:
Charles Edward TAYLOR, 35, of Marden Avenue, Ramsgate :
Mrs. Muriel LAWRENCE, 48, Dane Valley Road, Margate:
Mrs. Gertrude ANDREWS, 38, of Dane Gardens, Margate, and her son Brent ANDREWS, 3 :
Frederick Edward RUSTIN, 67, of Bletchley Road, Bletchley, Bucks :
Miss Marie ALLAN, 21, of Merrick Square, London, S.E. :
Flight Lieutenant G. H. HANSON, 29, pilot of the aircraft, and
Flight Lieutenant J. MARTIN, 46, of Farnborough, Hants, the navigator.
Source: The Times, Monday, Sept. 20, 1948; pg.4; Issue 51181; col F.
Plus Hawks and Typhoons……… Oh, yes, and the odd RV……..!!!!
Planemike
I think the Hawk line at Brough is closed, and the Typhoon contribution is airframe parts. We also make some F35 parts.
Amazing to think that once upon a time we made whole aeroplanes, and quite a lot of them too.
Now our whole aerospace industry makes Airbus wings, some missiles, and…….er….that’s it. 🙁
A spot of Googling indicates that the Javelin DID attend various shows in a static capacity.
Here at Leuchers in 73 ( photo Mad Dan UKAR )
This thread says it flew in Jan 24th 1975.
Don’t forget the Tube Drivers, grafting away through the holiday season, to keep Londoners on the move.
Oh, hang on……………:(
Don’t forget the Tube Drivers, grafting away through the holiday season, to keep Londoners on the move.
Oh, hang on……………:(
I have just had word that Capt Christmas has finished his pre-flight checks, and is fine tuning the weight & balance calcs ( it’s a bit tricky stashing 975,000 tons of presents !)
Probably the driving force in the sometimes confidential nature of the business are the huge sums of money involved.
These are various reasons, lawful and unlawful, admirable and contemptible, clear or opaque, why an individual may not want his ownership or his funding of such a high value item to be public knowledge.
Who can say, maybe there are ‘issues’ with HMRC, or a pending alimony case….?
I knew of someone who toiled for years to build his own beloved aeroplane. Some years later, his ex-wife ( or her solicitor ) demanded it should be sold, and half the value given over to her.
She did end up with half, after he left the wings on her front lawn 😎
It would have to be some sort of Shetland pilot.
A really amazing project.
I think until you can get 3/4 scale crew for your 75% scale replica, there will always be some compromises in scaling and proportions.
Vive la difference !
Very nice, good fun 🙂