A couple more.
I have just read on another board, that the application for variation of number of movements at Turweston for 19/9/04 and ALL the VAC dates for 2005, has been REFUSED.
Where can they go now? Back to Finmere perhaps. What sort of democracy is this, when one individual, can scupper the efforts, and recreational outlet of so many other people? The revoltion gets closer………
When a Beau goes in
Into the drink
It makes you think
Because you see, they always sink
But nobody says ‘Poor Lad’
Or goes about, looking sad
Because, you see, its war,
Its the unalterable law.
Although it perfectly certain
The pilot’s gone for a Burton
And the Observer too,
Its nothing to do with you
And if they both should go
To a land where falls no rain or hail
Nor driven snow
Here, there or anywhere
Do you suppose they care?
You shouldn’t cry
Or say a prayer, or sigh,
In the cold sea, in the dark
It isn’t a lark
But it isn’t original sin-
It’s just a Beau going in.
Gavin Ewart
Steve, sorry to sound like Mr Grumpy, but I think this idea is better binned. It sounds just more trouble than it is worth. No controller would entertain such an idea, especially at an airshow, when everyone is keyed up. If anything goes wrong, their jobs are on the line, so ask yourself, are they likely to approve an ad hoc formation of mixed types, flown by unknown amateur pilots ( sorry but that is what we are) perform a non standard arrival.
And you want to drag the ‘formation’ in from ten miles out at Cub speeds, say 8 minutes, with the faster a/c nose high and unusually slow. Throw in the random factor that always pops up, ie someones radio fails , or maybe the viz is quite poor, or one of the passengers is feeling unwell.
Ask yourself exactly why you want to do this, and it probably boils down to exhibitionism, and the laudable wish to give the veterans a memorable trip, though to be frank, whether you arrive like the Red Arrows or ‘same way-same day’ probably will not make a lot of difference to them . I bet their preference is for a nice safe trip, which probably means a nice safe arrival, in the conventional manner.
Loitering in the ‘Wok 52’ aka Nanchang CJ-6 , but keeping good company.
Sorry, no clues, but one more picture,
Oh..damn!
Thanks for the pics, airic, seems to have been a good event. From the wing-down approaches it looks as though there was quite a sporty crosswind. Is that Goddard Special a varient of the Spezio-Tuholer, with an in-line engine padded as a radial?
MOTF, You remind me, the Me/Nord/Taufin was one of the ‘full monty’ displays, and very good he looked too, but that Lycoming does sound a bit odd! It was a seriously hot day, as though September was trying to make up for August.
Must mention Dave Starkey in the Stampe;- those rolling circles…..
It has been observed here before I think, but there really is something a little odd about the Tomtit undercarriage. In the head-on shot, the spreader bar is not parallel with the wing, as though one of the oleos has not extended properly;- perhaps it should be called the Tomtilt!
Where or what is the BRNO show, please? Is it in Eastern Europe, which might explain the Morava twin in the back-ground, which is of Czech origin. The engine may be a Walter Mikron, but whatever it is, it does nothing for the lines of this Tiger. Still, better flying with that than grounded, I suppose.
Perhaps when ‘the season’ has drawn to a close, we could have a little competition on the forum, and the resident photgraphic ‘Top Guns’ (you know who you are!) post what they feel are their five best images of 2004.
Votes could be counted, and the winner presented with…, well, the glory if nothing else. Plus five rolls of 35mm film which I will donate, as I do not seem very motivated to use it these days. Could be fun ?
Bit of an odd-looking bird really. I wonder if she is still with us
(The Whirlwind, that is.. not your gran )
As I scan through the various monthly aviation mags, I think we are now seeing on this forum a standard of photography more striking, certainly more contemporary, than on the printed page. Formidable pictures, Septic. You saved the best until last!
To witness such evil, even at a distance, is so profoundly sickening and disorientating that the we feel utter revulsion. The way that the horror unfolded over three days made the events more immediate to our own lives, and the reality that we could go to bed on Thursday night, knowing that the hostages were still captive, knowing that it would probably end soon, and that it was very likely that many people who were still alive would soon not be. So it proved, and the BBC now confirms 330 deaths.
It is probably trite to look for any good in such an evil act, but perhaps the best we can hope is that the revulsion at this event will be so widespread that, like the IRA attack at Eniskillen, it will be seen as the ultimate outrage, and the start of a meaningful process to find a solution. A vain hope maybe, and only time will tell.
It is a symptom of 24 hr, instant global news that these events now have such an immediacy and crowd in on us as never before. The nature of ‘News’ is that is more likely to be alarming and distressing, and the ‘good’ stories far less prominent. The relentless diet of bombings, genocide, religous conflict can engender a jaded, cynical and suspicious outlook on life, but it is surely vital to hang onto the reality of the compassion, co-operation and stabilty that what we more usually see and experience within our own lives.
Though it may not feel like it, we in the UK, Europe, the West, are lucky enough to live more stable, secure lives than probably any previous era. This reality takes nothing for granted about the future, and is in no way indifferent to the plight of millions of people around the world. Let us hope that there is never a time when these events no longer shock us.
Well, both are aerobatic, but the Zlin much more so, having once been competitive at the highest level, but now out-gunned by SU-29, Extra, Caps, etc. In general layout they are similar, but the Zlin feels rather bigger, inside and out, with a tall, substantial, control column.
The six-cylinder engine in the Zlin is more powerful that the gypsy-major, with a harsh note, but smoother at high power settings than the Chipmunk.In flight, both are a delight to handle, but the Zlin feels somehow more precise, with its bigger wingspan providing more momentum as it turns, whilst the powerful ailerons allow very accurate positioning.
My first impression, performing wingovers and steep turn reversals was that the Zlin was more demanding, and I had some difficultly keeping the balance ball in the middle when rapidly going from a steeply banked turn to level flight. The wings will go exactly where you put the stick, but it is no doubt a matter of practice to know where that should be.
At the end of the day, or at least the end of the flight, you cannot fly a Zlin in exactly the same way as a Chipmunk, because if you do, you will forget to put the wheels down! ( though a few Zlins have fixed u/c ). Both Zlin and Chipmunk are great fun, like a TVR to an MG, and will be a revelation to pilots more used to the usual club trainers.