So shall we ask Key to shut down this forum?
Moggy
By no means. On information and knowledge, this forum is without equal. The subjects we have covered is massive, and represents an incredible resource.
If you are interested in historic aircraft in the UK, THIS is the place.
But on matters of opinion this forum ( like most others) is less impressive, and sentiments often get personal. There will always be some of that, but I think a lot of people are thankfully wise enough not to get caught up in the ‘shouty’ issues which experience shows us generally get nowhere. I am reminded of the embarrassing spat between two senior members here.
I suppose we have also to acknowledge that many people quite enjoy the occasional punch-up, and it is sometimes entertaining reading, at least for a little while π
I agree we ‘should’ . Its not my job to shut down debate for those who love the ‘cut and thrust’ and grandstanding that usually sets the tone.
It is a shame though, that the acrimony so often generated is a lot longer-lasting than the ‘debate’ itself, and it is almost unknown for anyone to ever modify their position on any given subject, based to the persuasive counter positions presented to them.
All of which seems to make online debating a fruitless indulgence.
Mods, please tell me how to delete my account. I want nothing more to do with this forum. Can you delete everything?
Perhaps you could sleep on it? You’ll probably feel different in the morning, after the heat of the moment.
A thread about the morality and justification of that raid was only ever going to go in one direction.
Constructive debate and internet forums are usually mutually exclusive, sadly.
I am not sure in the merit of ‘discussing’ this, as though dialogue here might lead us to any new meaningful understanding.
I am also weary of the (lazy) obsession of our media to use present anniversaries as a meaningful peg upon which to hang our daily news feed. It so happens, by pure chance that the earth has traveled round the sun 70 times, and because, again by chance, we happen to have 10 digits (fingers and thumbs) every tenth year is deemed significant, though logically it is of no significance over any other date.
The human toll at Dresden was appalling beyond comprehension, as were many other raids, as was the whole conflict.
There surely come a time when ongoing wallowing in the miseries of the past is literally without point, it is not as though one can escalate ones sympathy or empathy to ever greater insight. To go down that road, we would end up have the ‘Ten Minute Silence’ on Armistice Day, because the two minutes never gave us a chance to really engage with the issues.
Scrap it !! – A unique survivor in the UK. I hope this suggestion is more to raise awareness than serious intent.
Be careful who you give it to, as there are people out there who will see it as just Β£1,500 of mixed metals;
DH museum is an obvious suggestion, though I am mindful they do not want to be everybody else’s scrapyard, and the derelict Otter did not stay too long.
Photo at Booker.
Is it true there is a coin slot in the back-cockpit and you have to put in two pound coins every second or else the engine stops ? :rolleyes:
With guys like Matt Jones, Richard Verrall, Willy Hackett, Phill OβDell, Al Pinner, Cliff Spink, Pete Kynsey, Ian Smith and Bill Dean in the front seat it wont get any better.
Two of them I could put up with, but if it is going to be that crowded, I might just pass π
Uh! Where do you get this BS?
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MV told me himself that there were very significant gaps in the technical data that was required. It sounds as though things have moved forward since then.
Vintech have the engine, at Little Gransden.
With no manuals, it is rather slow going, but the finished job will be, as always, immaculate.
Not sure we will see the Balbo like this again π (2008)
So much for the plan to take it to Finland then.
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They did the trip ! Clive Davidson flew it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUPzFYSLUEc#t=267
As for the remains, most of the bits I saw would fit in the boot of your average car (though not all together )
Phillip flew CBOE on just one occasion- read into that what you will.
”following the sale of the flying Hurricane and Hurricane project to Germany Phoenix Aero will be ‘shutting up shop’ in the near future.” Facebook page of company
There was also a shipping container with the mortal remain of the Hurricane lost at Shoreham some years ago.
This photo is the project airframe, which has been going to be restored as a two seater ( yes!) but that is no longer certain.
Hi J Webb,
Great to hear from you, and welcome to the forum.
This is very opportune, as just last week someone was asking how the CASA’s left Bovingdon, ie by air or truck. Take a look at the Duxford thread and you will see one of them has just turned up at Duxford.
I live in Chesham under the Bovingdon circuit, and am v interested in all the film activity which went on there. Have you any photos from the time?
Andy Smith