What about the Silverjet 767? Did you see it come in/go out? I can see its tail in your 3rd shot.:D 😀
Very, very nice, well-taken shots, nonetheless.:)
So sharp and clear! I’m really liking the reflections in the JAL Cargo 747 shot.
I think this thread has finally made me crack. I haven’t been out with my camera since October. October!
A wonderful set of photos Deano! The shots taken from the ground are beautiful! You shall have to let me know if you ever pop into Manchester on a flight so I can get a shot of your aircraft.
Just wondering about the sticker that politely informs you that the aircraft isnt capable of steep approaches – I’m assuming by ‘steep’ it means London City type ‘steep’. Whats different about a Dash that is equipped for steep approaches – if there is one?
Adam
Would actually be very simple to implement toilet charges. Use a coin system to permit access!
I was just thinking about that idea but for the overhead storage bins. A bit too far I think….?
“The HINTS” – (Hun IN The Sun)
or
“Twelve O’Clock High”
“The HINTS” – (Hun IN The Sun)
or
“Twelve O’Clock High”
Your shot of the 777 is a great one, Gary, becuase those sorts of angles are really very hard to get, and get right.
“The aircraft is seen skimming houses”
Hmm… ‘Skimming’ implies contact to me! :rolleyes:
As for a phone shutting the engines down, if EMI or RFI can cause such a thing I’d expect it to be much more likely to occur when the aircraft flies within the vacinity of something like London’s Crystal Palace TV transmitter (1,000,000 watts output) or West Yorkshire’s Emley Moor TV transmitter (870,000 watts output).
I’ll believe it when I see the proof!
Paul
If it turns out to be the case that EMI or RFI caused a 200-tonne modern civil airliner to crash, can anyone how much sh!t the industry would be in? It would be catastrophic. When it dawns on the world that radio transmissions or electromatic fields could bring down an airliner…..
Being totally ignorant of the finer points of flying a large commercial airliner and not having an airliner flight sim to try this on, would there be any point in this situation in raising the gear to reduce drag and extend the glide if you’re not going to make the field ? would lack of power preclude the hydraulics from being capable of this ? might even reduce damage to the airframe.
Apologies for my ignorance, the biggest thing they let me fly on my own was a K13 glider, no electrics or hydraulics to go wrong.
According to what I read in Flight, the landing gear on the approach was lowered quite late.
Raising the gear would have done a disservice – the doors of the landing gear bays would have come down to raise the gear – increasing the drag, and the gear did a pretty good job of absorbing quite a lot of the impact force of the aircraft hitting the deck. No landing gear and the fuselage would have had to have absorbed all of the force, probably doing a lot more damage to everyone inside.
Lance, it’s because it’s easy to predict the weather in Manchester, you should know this by now
Monday – Rain
Tuesday – Rain
Wednesday – Rain
Thursday – Rain
Friday – Rain
Saturday – Rain
Sunday – Rain😀
I think your forecast, Deano, should differentiate between light and heavy precipitation.
Monday – Heavy Rain
Tuesday – Heavy Rain
Wednesday – Heavy Rain
Thursday – Heavy Rain
Friday – Really Heavy Rain
Saturday – Heavy Rain (but not as heavy as Friday)
Sunday – Heavy Rain
😀
Oh, and nice shots Lance, considering the rain.
The whole affair has generated one hell of a lot of discussion across the internet – I don’t think Ive ever seen so much interest in one accident, and part of me is wondering why; London Heathrow? British Airways? The fact that the cause of the accident looks to be so interesting, with possible wide ranging consequences?
I do find comments on some sites interesting though. A member on one forum complained about an ‘astonishing’ article on the BBC in which a passenger told the media that they had been treated badly after the accident.
The poster suggested the passenger was being a ‘moron’ by expecting to have refreshments and to see counsellors (quoting the poster: “As if there’s a room down a terminal corridor somewhere at Heathrow with a rapid response crack team of counsellors and therapists twiddling their thumbs waiting for a big plane crash to give them something to do”) almost immediately after the accident.
However, Emergency Orders detail just that. That is EXACTLY what is, or should be, provided for passengers. Emergency Orders state that a response from organisations and personnel who are trained to deal with bereavement ‘situations’ and distressed victims after accidents is given in within hours. Airports are capable of providing this sort of response in less than an hour, in some situations.
Your collection of photos are far too good to be published. Remove them at once! You’re making me quite jealous. 😀
For the guy to come pretty close to death – along with 150 other people – and to then have photos sent to the media that ridicule him – I shouldnt imagine he’s having a whale of a time at the moment. I feel quite sorry for him – even if it turns out that his, and his co-pilots’ actions lead to the accident in the first place.
The probably cause was ice on the airframe causing stability and control problems.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19860131-1
..do you have the link Adam..I’ve hunted around but haven’t found the piece you might be referring to….
cheers
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1301438,00.html
‘video of crash landing’; on the right. 🙂