Once more where is the proof of that once more where are the sources saying and proving they had MiG-23ML prior to 1989
Actually there’s the arms embargo for one thing, they’d have had to have taken delivery before it was put in place. Beyond that, I haven’t had time to look for a real source just yet, it’s too convenient and easy to find someone’s amateur site and pass it off as a real, credible source of information.
And again, a MiG-23MS being shot down by an F-14 does not disprove the existance of a MiG-23ML. Or does it disprove the existance of Libyan FOXBATs as well? I guess Libya had no MiG-25Ps until 1991 either, right? Do you see how asinine that logic sounds?
the Russians would had advised the Libyans to use their MiG-25s to kill the Tomcats or fire BVR R-24s form their MiG-23s, see this detail, the MiG-23s never fired upon the Tomcats, niether at BVR or close range, no R-24 was fired, so no MiG-23ML only an aircraft with AA-2s would had done what the Libyan MiG-23s did, so only MiG-23MS can be the variant that fought the F-14s
Are you serious? If you were in any way correct then why did the Libyans ignore Russia’s teaching and send FITTERs out into the Gulf to deal with USN F-14s a few years earlier?
Your argument is not based in any sort of fact. No R-24 was fired so it couldn’t have been an ML…that’s hilarious. Maybe the better equipped MLs were used for base or capital defense and the inferior MSs were used to intercept unknown contacts during periods when Libya was not overtly at war, putting more hours on the lesser airframes. There’s no evidence for that either, of course, but at least I can take the time to come up with a logical reason for the USN’s casual FLOGGER elimination exercise not featuring an ML.
Technically yes, but with all the export advertising and co-development as BrahMOS, everybody seems to just call it Yakhont regardless!
I don’t know if you’d be wise to make that serious a change to such a purpose-built system as the Granit. Changing out the nav system, the EW systems, and the motor is going to dork about with the CG something fierce and potentially throw the performance into a region which the airframe isn’t as suited for. Yakhont is a little slower but will have all of the newer systems you would want in a modified Granit anyway.
I’d guess they mean Yakhont. On a related note, is there any indication that the S-300FM will be fitted like it was to Veliky?
I don’t mean that Venezuela isn’t necessarily interested, but with Chavez wanting lots of things he’s going to have to pick and choose. I’d guess that the heavy SAMs are the next priority based on their current situation.
As for China, they’re partly in the same boat. They’re beginning work on the JXX ATF-type fighter, building the J-11B, building the J-10, and building the JH-7A. It would seem that current developments in China have negated a need for the Su-35. Now, importing some of the systems to use as upgrades for their Su-27 and J-11 fleet is another story, one that’d allow them to be exploited for the JXX as well.
If Iran wants to start something in the Gulf, then a little canal like this isn’t going to do a single thing. If they used a pipeline to send oil and gas to a refinery well outside the Gulf, like in Yemen for example, now we’re talking. But this does nothing whatsoever, and that’s probably why it remains a “pipe dream”. In fact, it was probably brought up to make it appear that leaders were trying to protect their country’s resources, getting prices to trend back upwards.
If Iran wants to start something in the Gulf, then a little canal like this isn’t going to do a single thing. If they used a pipeline to send oil and gas to a refinery well outside the Gulf, like in Yemen for example, now we’re talking. But this does nothing whatsoever, and that’s probably why it remains a “pipe dream”. In fact, it was probably brought up to make it appear that leaders were trying to protect their country’s resources, getting prices to trend back upwards.
We don’t need a government that is not particularly trustworthy at this stage owning such an air force in such proximity to Israel.
Israel can either defend itself or become a footnote. If they want to steal land, build walls, and put settlements where they don’t belong, then they can deal with the aftermath. What a few F-16s is going to do to threaten a nation with hundreds of F-15 and F-16 fighters, though, is beyond me. But if it makes Israel sleep a little less soundly at night, so be it, give Iraq Block 60s.
It’s Su-27BM or Su-35. Su-35BM is incorrect. That term was used by Sukhoi in some early marketing materials but they only refer to it as the Su-35 or Su-27BM now. The latter designation will probably be what it is called in RuAF service, complementing the Su-27SM. It was never referred to as an Su-37, that was the T10M-11 prototype with TVC only.
Venezuela? No. They want long-range Russian air defense systems and have just bought the Su-30MKV.
China? No. They are going the domestic upgrade route with the J-11B.
Out of curiosity, is it possible to tell when Google Earth imagery was taken? Is the ‘copyright’ date relevant?
Was checking out the Northern Fleet bases at Severomorsk and Severodvinsk and nothing has moved . . .
Yes. Zoom in pretty close on your target. The bar at the bottom of the screen should show you four things from left to right:
-Coordinates
-Elevation
-Imagery date (the date the imagery was taken)
-“Eye Altitude” (how high you are viewing from)
The copyright date is only relevant to the program itself, not the imagery. Otherwise, the entire program would be showing 2008 imagery, and that just isn’t the case, trust me 😀
S-300PMU. The top of the FLAP LID engagement radar array is not the proper shape for it to be TOMB STONE, so it cannot be a PMU-1 or -2. Also, it wouldn’t be a PMU-2 as a 36D6 TIN SHIELD is present as well, and the PMU-2 should be using the 96L6E for EW functions instead.
True, if you could track it you might be able to hit it but what did they have in those days that could detect, track, and have a decent chance of hitting a Mach 3 target at 1000 feet?
S-125, S-200, S-300P/V later on, various tactical SAM systems…
Some reports suggested that the budget for hypersonic projects (unspecified) has more than doubled in Russia since last year. They have also cancelled all cooperation with the EU regarding hypersonic projects (RADUGA D-2, hypersonic engine and the like). The declassifying of the Meteorit has been interpreted by some analysts as a sign that they were near something better. But I doubt that it will be a air-launched system.
I doubt that the unveiling of Meteorit has anything to do with a follow-on project. But the growth of the hypersonics budget is interesting, it most likely has to do with the development and maybe now production of the hypersonic MaRV for the Topol-M.