So what do you think the USN’s response would have been if those Russian Su24 and Su27 that overflew the KH established a radar lock on the carrier and looked like they were making an attack run? Would any of you loose any sleep if the Russians did that and the Kitty Hawk or its escorts had blown the Russians out of the sky?

Similarly, I suppose none of you would be at all upset if the Russian bombers NATO fighters are send to intercept start training their tail guns on the fighters?

If you take the, ‘well there is no law against it’ approach and act aggressively, don’t be shocked when the other side start to do the same. After that, you are on a slippery slope and unless one side or both take a big step back, things can turn real nasty real quick.

First off, if you want NATO to stop launching simulated attacks on the Russian bombers, then perhaps the Russian bombers would be so kind as to stop launching simulated cruise missile attacks against North America. They aren’t sightseeing. This is what they are training for. Complaining that the NATO air forces conduct their own reciprocal training to intercept and destroy said nuclear distributors is ludicrous.

Secondly, pointing their cannons at the NATO fighters would be perfectly justified, provided they do not fire. But then be aware that NATO pilots will likely obtain a radar lock on the BEAR to ensure that retaliatory fire is assured. Somebody actually goes and points a gun at me, that’s what I’d do, point one right back.

In reality this should be treated as two separate events. MPA and ISR aircraft and the like are one thing and should be afforded a certain degree of civility and good airmanship. Nuclear strike aircraft training for the decimation of an entire nation are another thing entirely. In that case, I’m all for mock attack runs and the like.

Brand new uniforms paraded for the first time and the new BUK TEL with a new tracking radar fitted for the SA-17s. Define boring…

That’s not a new TEL for the Buk-M2, it’s just the first time anyone has seen it in public in Russian service (the Buk-M2E TEL was shown at Zhukovskiy last year). Still interesting though. And I’m still looking at photos, but there may have been one or two other things in there that nobody has caught onto yet…

Now if they’d have launched a few Topols and S-300Vs from Red Square THAT would have been interesting.

Dude, you’d have killed all the spectators 😮

Can I play? :dev2:

Got a 360? My gamertag is Sean117 :diablo:

Getting back to the issue of stealth technology, you all would be better off having read a copy of this textbook:

http://www.scitechpublishing.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=163

I’ve got one, and how a lot of this gets published is simply beyond me.

Much more focus on the fighter community, basically. That’s what happens when you have an airshow at ACC Headquarters, let alone an F-22 unit 😀

Why test at Groom? One answer would be because the airliner isn’t measuring the signature of the F-15, but rather of what the F-15 was carrying…

No problem, I was just harassing you. I’ll self-ban myself for thirty seconds 😀

If anyone hasn’t found them by now, here are the links to the Langley Airshow and the ACC Demo Team page giving their schedules:

http://www.langleyairshow.com/

http://www.acc.af.mil/aerialevents/

The McGuire airshow isn’t going to be anything special. The F-22A demo was cancelled and now the static display jet may not even be present either. I’m probably going to skip this one and just go to the Langley airshow in June. Red Arrows, F-4 demo, MV-22 demo, Raptor demo…yeah, I’m going. I went last year and it was pretty impressive. Gotta make sure you go on Saturday if you want to catch the B-2 flying display though!