Well not knowing much about them I had a look to see what they are all about etc. Having now read it-I still dont know!!
The website states virtually nothing about its aims objectives ideas and raison d’etre etc?
Mentions a few names and that certain groups meet for dinner occasionally etc but very little else?
They will surely struggle to encourage more members with this website layout anyway.
Heres a modern one if its of any interest. Boeing 787 HUD on the ground though-so not a lot of info being displayed.
I was deaf after hearing the first one-so wasnt able to tell!!
I was flying into Southend that night on an Air Ferry Viscount (G-AVHE)with a group of spotters. We had all been to the Hanover air show.
On descent we were told that an aircraft was blocking the runway at Southend and we would have to divert to Stansted.
It was an awful night with severe turbulence/lightning and torrential rain. We were bucketed about all over the place and many of the passengers were being very sick-we thumped down extremely hard at Stansted but were relieved to be down on terra firma. We then coached back to Southend and saw the other Viscount on the railway embankment. I believe it had aquaplaned on landing-which considering our own approach to Stansted-was not suprising-it was probably the roughest flight I ever experienced.
I flew with my parents, in about 1966 to Luxembourg from Heathrow, in a BE ex-RAF Britannia with rear facing seats.
My first ever flying experience.
It wouldnt actually have been an ex RAF machine but because they were contracted to do regular trooping flights it would have been a requirement to have the seats rearward facing.
None of their Brits were ex RAF.
Ive been going for many years and had very few problems but this year couldn’t get in despite leaving home early. A505 was solid from Royston-so went to Trumpington and joined the queue for the bus there. We were soon told no more allowed in unless holding tickets.
I hadn’t booked in advance as I had to stay a night in hospital during the preceding week-and always possible that it could have been extended etc with complications (fortunately none on this occasion).
What with the vagaries of the British weather/heavy rain and so on-to buy advanced tickets would see an outlay of over a £100 for my family group-most of whom would not have wished to be there in those conditions.
It would seem sensible to me to also have a park and ride facility at the Royston end too? I vaguely recall they used to have one there at one time-or am I thinking of somewhere else.
Also -why dont they have an online ticket facility-ie like Little Gransden-where you paid online and printed your ticket just like you might do with on line check in for low cost airlines.
That way they would know well in advance how ticket sales were doing-and you could make a late check on the weather?
I was an ATCA at Luton (when the terminal building was a wooden shed) in 1964/65 and Chrisair was a regular user; they were certainly based at Sywell then. I remember the Dragon as G-ADDH but my memory isn’t as reliable as it was. Chris’ (Roberts) managed the business and his wife Claire was the pilot. At that time they were aspiring to become a ligitimate airline. Again, I can’t rely on my memory over some 50 years but I think Claire might have been ex-ATA. She was tall and quite statue-esq, always flying in a black leather flying suite and boots. It would not surprise me to learn that Honor Blackman had used her as the template for Cathy Gale (The Avengers) and Pussy Galore in Goldfinger. There were very few women flying in those days and the men, especially the Euravia and Autair pilots tried to take the mickey but Claire gave at least as good as got.
Claire Roberts was a Captain on Heralds with BAF during my time there in the late 1970s. She was a indeed a very elegant and charming lady-who would probably have been in her mid fifties at that time? I would have little doubt guessing that she would have been the same lady by the description.
Interesting story today about the World’s first (fifth?) hi-jack.
A government C-47 in Burma, snatched by the rebels
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28014394
Moggy
I was privileged to know Alex Hare in the early 70’s. He was still flying Daks then for Air Anglia.
A real gentle and unassuming man-who like most of that generation-spoke little about their past experiences.
but just got on doing their job without complaint or fuss.
As a mere earthling I feel honoured to have worked with so many pilots of that era-who in my eyes were and are true heroes. (unlike certain other extremely opinionated and outspoken “heroes”-who are mentioned in another current thread)
In many cases its only now in my later years that I have found out some of the events they managed to survive.
I was cabin crew for BOAC at the time (VC.10s and 707s). I was away on a three week round the world trip on one occasion when a middle east crisis started up. Our three week trip was essentially doubled to 6 weeks as they cut the normal daily service to every other day due to fuel shortages we were told-meaning our rostered trip now took 6 weeks instead of 3.
It was hell having to have twice as much time off in NewYork/L.A/Honolulu/Fiji/Auckland/Sydney/Singapore/Bombay and Dubai!! (Not to mention twice the daily allowances-which were quite considerable in those days). I had seven days off afterwards and got called out from standby to go and do another one-shame!!. (You were normally lucky to get a 591-(BA591) round the world trip once a year.)
Ive only really researched my Uncles history (Air gunner) but he trained pre OTU at Lossiemouth in 1942-mainly on Whitleys and Ansons. Some of his training was using Forres which was I believe a satellite field for Lossy.
(He was lost at the end of 1942 with 83 squadron).
I recall reading and seeing photographs of them using Fairchild Argus aircraft too.
The ‘Austrian’ Viscounts are Cambrian Airways Viscount 701s. Note the former BEA red wings colour retained. This dates the photo to after March 1963, the British Eagle (not just Eagle) Viscount likely to after January 1964, the presence of a Trident to after entry into service March 1964; the British Eagle aircraft have to be before November 1968, the BEA aircraft all in the same scheme points to before late ’68 also. However, the general lack of Tridents in the wider ramp shots make me think spring/early summer 1964 as the likely time-frame for this set of nostalgia.
In slide 2 the 4 prop nose-on with a white nose I take to be an IL-18, likely Malev?
Yes agree with Cambrian Viscounts and not Austrian and also with IL-18
I lived nearby in West Drayton for a few years and was walking/cycling distance away-so spent many happy hours there too-starting off in the late 50s with Yorks/Connies/Strats/Vikings etc.
Cant see a Super Connie on any of them?
Slide 1. 2 BEA Vanguards and a Trident plus a British Eagle Britannia over the back
Slide 2. Lots of BEA Vanguards 2 or 3 /British Eagle Britannias/SAS Caravelle/Austrian Airlines Viscount
Slide 3. Aer Lingus Viscount and BEA Vanguard with 707s in background-possibly TWA?
Slide 4. Air France Caravelle taking off with BEA and Austrian Viscounts on ground.
Slide 5. BEA Comet/Argosy and Vanguard in background.Air Canada DC-8 to left/Eagle Viscount to right. and tail of an Alitalia Caravelle to right.
Slide 6. 2 BEA Comets/Argosy/Vanguard in background .Sabena Caravelle and BEA Vanguard nearer front.
Slide 7. 2 BEA Vanguards.
A few distant bits and bobs in background.
That brings back memories. My first ever flight in an airliner, was with my parents in a British Eagle Britannia. From Heathrow to Innsbruck (I seem to remember).
Must have been an ex-RAF aircraft, as it had rear facing seats.
None of Eagles Brits were ex military but they did do a lot of flights with military families and troops etc positioning from and to their postings overseas.
There was a requirement at that time for all seats to be rearward facing if carrying military personal etc.
It wasn’t always practical to change them back for normal civilian flights.
Not sure what year it stopped being mandatory though?
The picture on the right in the first post brought back many memories too
Fred Pinchin serving in the bar at the Luton Flying club. It was a very popular watering hole for the airline crews and staff in the 60s and 70s etc. I first recall it in the old Edgar Percival farmhouse building-but after that was demolished -the premises moved across the road and was extended with a dance floor etc.
I met my nearest and dearest there in fact. She was Court line cabin crew.