Thanks. I’ll give them a try.
Does anyone know who the winner of the 1961 Cup was? I know the aircraft was Miles M.18 G-AHKY, but nothing about the pilot.
Has anyone seen a list of King’s Cup winners? I’ve had a look via Google, but couldn’t find anything. If not on the web, is such a list available in print anywhere?
I wish you guys had the same ability to increase your budget from 40 to 467 million! I live in hope!
I wish we had the £40M – that would do me fine! I could certainly achieve an awful lot with that kind of money. Pretty much everything that I want to achieve there, in fact!
Interesting comments from everyone and I would have replied earlier, but I have been busy all day and am posting this from home. I agree with the comment that the buildings need to be soted out first – there is no point in having pristine aircraft if the building is not weather and pigeon proof. This task is in hand, but there is much to be done. I want to see all four hangars pristine and heated, but it may be some time yet. I’ve not had a chance to find out a timescale for this, and there are cost implications as well, but hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.
As regards colour schemes, I agree the Comet should remain in Dan Air colours, simply because it is unusual and not least because those are the colours that aircraft carried.
Personally (and I emphasise that all the comments in this post are my own opinions, not NMS policy) I would like to see the Anson fully covered (it makes no sense not to do so) and in the colour scheme it wore with Kemps Aerial Surveys. This would be unusual (there are plenty of Ansons in RAF camouflage) and would lend itself perfectly to a display about aerial photography which could be made very interesting and interactive for the public.
The Bolingbroke I would love to see in the scheme of a Blenheim IV that actually flew from East Fortune. Whether this will happen or not, I don’t know, but that’s what I’m going to try and push for. Ideally, the Beaufighter – once restored – will also be in the colours of an East Fortune-based machine. This would give it local interest as well as being a tribute to those men who trained there and then went onto the Coastal Command Strike Wings, which had the highest loss rate of anywhere in the RAF.
As regards what should and shouldn’t be done before working on the Beaufighter, as I’ve said, the highest priority should be to make the buildings weather proof. However, it’s not as simple as that. The money which would be spent on the buildings is not the same as the money that would be spent on the aircraft, and the APSS (if they do get back onto working on the aircraft :rolleyes:) have enough volunteers to be able to work on more than one project at a time. I don’t see it as a case of finishing off one thing before starting on another, but rather three unfinished aircraft all of which desperately need to be restored and put on display. And hopefully that will happen in the reasonably near future, although the Beaufighter is, admittedly, going to be a few years down the line.
I’m sure these comments will anger/disappoint/frustrate people but that is how I see things. I’ve discovered in the past couple of days that I don’t have much power to change things but can only say that I am trying to improve things at the Museum of Flight. I hope this is a goal we can all work towards together.
No 111 MU
Formed Aug 1941 to control dispersed Empire Radio School, Gider Exercise Squadron and MT spares in caves at Tura-el-Asment, 14 miles south of Cairo. By October 1942 the following sections existed: Aircraft & Engine Repair, Signals Repair and General Engineering. Disbanded 16 March 1947.
No 161 MU
Formed 11 May 1943 from No 5 (Middle East) Aircraft Repair Unit at Fayid. Redseignated No 2 Transport Aircraft Repair Unit on 1 March 1944.
This information comes from Royal Air Force Flying Training and Support Units published by Air-Britain.
BTW, thanks for the update info. I didn’t know the Beau nose and gone back. It was brought up to help as a reference for the Beau restoration and now that it’s about to start the nose goes back to Hendon. Typical!
Can I get back to you all on this in due course. I’ll start at East Fortune on Monday 10th (see my other post about me being the new Assistant Curator) and find out exactly what’s happening. I understand that work on RD220 may be about to start. Certainly, if I have anything to do with it, it will!
The board was for using on the knees, so I always assume smaller types, rather than big bombers or flying boats with chart tables, but maybe they were used at other crew stations for observation work too?
Presumably this would mean types such as the Hampden (a pretty cramped bomber), Mosquito, etc were there was no room for a chart table but likely to be fairly long-range missions?
I’ve had another look at the original photos and guess what, the ref no is indeed 6B/137. So thanks very much indeed 682al, it’s great to get the accurate title.
1:1,000,000 is a fairly small scale. Would these be used by Bomber or Coastal Command, or perhaps Ferry Command?
Anne,
Thanks, that’s what I suspected (but then I would say that! :rolleyes: ) Do you know if these were used by all navigators or by just one Command, ie were they universal or just Bomber/Coastal or other Command?
Perhaps images may help …
Yes you do! – The Harrier (not hanger) T2/T4 at Sandy’s Mill.
Ian,
Please excuse my stupidity. I have heard about the T2 but have not, of course, seen it or any photos of it and would be very interested to see it. Thanks very much indeed for your kind offer. May I take a rain check just now until I get an idea for how busy I’m going to be. The next couple of months could be kind of hectic in order to get the Concorde exhibition ready for March. After then, I may have a little more time.
Congratulations Ian!
(Does this mean that I can badger you to let me (carefully) take measurements from the Harrier?!)
……..and if you ever have a spare moment you are welcome to visit the
T2 just across the road from you.Best regards,
Ian Sheffield
I must confess that you’ve lost me here. Another T2 hangar in the area? Where? Where did it originate from? I don’t see any problems with you measuring the Harrier. Give me an email in a week or two at i.brownATnms.ac.uk (changing the AT, obviously).
Does this still leave you time for your Radar archive work, and the forthcoming book? 🙂
You can bet it will, one way or the other! 😉