Care to link to the figures from a reliable source?

Moggy

I have no figures at my fingertips, only a great deal of reading on the subject over the last 3 or 4 years. Should I infer from your question that you actually doubt that there has been a significant increase? Or are you just playing devil’s advocate to assure balance? I am sure that a little time “googling” will confirm my claim.

Is this ‘huge increase’ fact or popular press fantasy?

Moggy

It depends how you define “huge”. The UK, France, Holland, Denmark and others will attest to significantly increased immigration by Muslims in recent years.

My problem is not with Muslims per se but with this country’s policies towards immigrants in general. Although it is the Muslim problem which is causing increasing concern.

Legalised multiculteralism is an anathema. Immigrants should be generally welcomed but only if they are prepared to conform to the laws and institutions of the country. We are too small a country to admit the luxury of diverse groups of people living as aliens either within an indiginent community or worse, creating their own ghettos.

This is what ferments anger, distrust, resentment and alienation. I have always believed in the old adage ” when in Rome, do as Romans do”. The UK has been a relatively settled mixed ethnic community since 1944. The second and third generation black immigrants of the fifties are largely integrated as are those of the Asian enforced immigration from Amin’s Uganda. Poles, Hungarians and Czechs all found homes here and are accepted without a second thought.

Some Muslims came here and live and work here as integrated UK citizens. Many Muslims come here to live out their lives as though they were still in their home countries. Some harbour ill-will and worse against us and our society. That is the problem.

Excellent – he is still boy in adults guise and so has that innocent enthusiasm that nothing is impossible and an easy, persuasive manner. He is a great communicator of his own interests and enthusiasms. Really looking forward to the 10 mile model railway.:D

Is this the best of them……..??:D

These posts just go to show, in the overall scheme of things, how insignificant life’s irritations are when compared to life’s tragedies.

As we grow older we inevitably experience more frequently the illness and/or death of friends and family and to experience it is to put our petty annoyances in perspective.

Did I swear today? – yes, mildly, but that moment has passed and is already half forgotten. My mother’s death is not, although it was months ago.

See below about Whittle (admittedly from Wiki!!)

Without Air Ministry support, he and two retired RAF servicemen formed Power Jets Ltd to build his engine with assistance from the firm of British Thomson-Houston. Despite limited funding, a prototype was created which first ran in 1937. Official interest was forthcoming following this success with contracts being placed to develop further engines, but the continuing stress seriously affected Whittle’s health, eventually resulting in a nervous breakdown in 1940. In 1944 when Power Jets was nationalised he again suffered a nervous breakdown, and resigned from the board in 1946.[3]

Does this indicate that WITH Air Ministry/Govt support we (the UK) might have had a jet fighter fairly early on in WW2? I am not trying to go over who did what, first, and/or when. I am simply trying to indicate that this might well have been an example of Whitehall Mandarins (forget the Politicians!) educated in Greats (Latin, Greek, Ancient History) not having a clue about Science and its application to the warfare that even they must have seen coming in 1937!
Please discuss in less than 100 Postings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Resmoroh

I am sure you are right and I have read that thesis elsewhere. Our key creative people have often been ill-served by their paymasters, who, probably because of the background you ascribe to them, lacked technical vision. Very sad, but, as you say it does not detract from the achievements of those who “were the first”.