I know, can’t spell these big fancy words :rolleyes: sorry

Oops! Much as I might often like to point out spelling mistakes I never, ever do on this forum!:) The inverted commas were just to draw attention to the use of that word in relation to driving. It is of course quite correct but I have never thought of them as manoeuvres.:):)

Jay – take no notice of Linc’s protests – he loves it all really! In fact he might even be a closet hairdresser……..:diablo::diablo:

Congratulations!!:):)

The only advice, which I can offer having passed my test rather a long time ago, based on what you have told us is to practice, practice and practice until you can do the “manoeuvres” correctly. I have no problem in examiners being strict – in fact the encounters I have on an almost daily basis lead me to wonder how some drivers ever passed their test.:(

Seconded. I too have missed her “gone tech” twice but finally saw her again at Margate in June. So I feel for those who will miss her this weekend, but she is a very old lady with lots to go wrong and I am sure the dedicated engineers will get the problem sorted out as quickly as they can so that a few more thousands can enjoy her this season.

You see it can be done.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/secondaryeducation/8698216/The-school-that-beat-the-rioters.html

So called old fashioned values do work. The problem is we have had 15 years during which the traditional ways have been decried and liberal values endorsed so that it’s now a free-for-all and responsibility and respect can go hang.

And we are surprised at the society we now have??:rolleyes:

The questions you raise are important ones but I would suggest for another hread. This is supposed to be about the sentences currently being handed down although it has already drifted well off course!!:rolleyes:

Whatever we think about it, the crucial point is that sentencing must be the job of the judiciary not the government of the day. There is a separate argument about the severity of punishment determined by the legislators, but judges and magistrates have to be allowed to sentence as they see fit. The problem is in the inconsistencies of sentences handed down.

In some of these cases appeals will be made because that is how our system works and higher courts may well rule to commute. My personal view is that examples should be made by handing down the severest punishment under the law for the given crime, be they child or adult. If the maximum sentence is community order then the maximum number of days should be handed down and the individuals should be dressed so that there is no doubt who they are and they should be involved in clearing up the destruction they helped to cause.