Presumably that one is big enough to be called a ‘Helicopter Destroyer Leader’?

If it has any credibility that image does also suggest which areas Japan would like UK input in following the idea of greater co-operation on defence projects.

India’s selection of Dassault Aviation as the preferred bidder for a 126-fighter jet deal was largely based on a price tag 25 percent cheaper than the French firm’s Eurofighter rival, a report said Feb. 10. 2012

Wow. 25% have you a link?

I think that Raf’ offered different things that better suited India than Tiffie* if they genuinely got that at 3/4 price then India have done well.

* despite that and my misgivings about BAe I still wanted Tiffy to win though.

So the T-50 is a Flanker derivative

Only if the mighty F15 is a Mig 25 derivative

Mr. AI

This is really not that important but its ‘ay elle’ coz that’s my name not ‘ay eye’ (Real Stupidity for me not Artificial Intelligence)

me thinks in this moment in times ‘active cancelation’ which maybes be part of SPECTRA EW system, is just sexy way of saying DRFM jamming ie. creating realistic false tartgets:p.

You might be right (I certainly haven’t put a Raf in a nearfield or farfield scanner and seen what happens) hence my weasel words about ‘when it works’ just as I used them for shaping.

My point was …… there are two very different approaches to the same thing (spot other chap afore he spots you and ideally deny him a big enough signature to use a GWS) and I don’t buy the distinction between one being ‘4th (or 4th alpha) gen’ and the other ‘5th gen’. The interesting bit (which precious few of us on these boards will get any time soon*) is how each of these works and how well.

* ‘Phoenix and Tomcat successful simultaneous interceptions’ anyone?

Actually they are counting exports different way. None of Mistral/Mirage-2000 upgrade has been delivered.
I have doubts about UK figures also.
if they sign Rafale deal tommorrow it does not mean there exports become $20b.

This is one of those areas which is so complex that one is probably just as well taking it at face value.

For example
A large part of UK exports will undoubtedly be BAe based. BAe a company which makes an awful lot of money from US companies it bought up with do the majority of their business with the US alone. BAe a company which is mainly controlled by US investors.

But which bits of BAe business would then be discounted from the British figures? And once that starts which bits of other companies’ business are discounted from other nations’ figures?

Suggestions

1. As someone who blithely assumed that it was Japanese law not policy before I first saw one of Swerve’s correction posts (some time ago now!) why not place that correction in your sig swerve?

2. Could Australia not licence build Soryo?

3. And RN get licence-build US2 or P1? (We can commision them with names of all those historic ship names which we have no skimmers to name them after)

He should have only ever attack USSR if Japan promised to attack on the other flank, two fronts sucks

Or if he was determined to attack USSR unilaterally then at least make that his priority not divert vital resources to help his ‘second father’ in his stalled campaign in Greece and Eqypt.