Damn, do I assume that this is a joke based on knowledge and not respond risking (not a big risk) that you continue in ignorance or assume that you’ve made a booboo, correct it and look a humourless buffoon?

I shall assume the former and respond as per the latter.

The manufacturers are claiming orders of magnitude. And I SUSPECT will claim the order which best suits

i.e. 0.068 will be claimed as 0.01 order of magnitude

Its a bit like a ‘2 Litre’ car engine the actual displacement will likely be something like 1.964 but 1.964L looks rubbish emblazoned on the back end.

Al

See now I was joking about British Ales but maybe historical naming has actually been worse.

Battles, Counties and Cities all get my vote for resurrection

Small classes could be kingdoms of UK. And I like the idea of naming after our allies (and not just because it might pressurise treasury into allowing a decent number of units so that we don’t offend anyone by leaving them off the list)

Al

IMO Dreadnought should only be used on a platform that is revolutionary or marks a new age in naval warfare

One can take tradition too far, but that sounds like a sound naming convention to me

Al

HMS Nelson’s Revenge http://www.woodfordes.co.uk/html/nelson.html

Fitted with some form of anti-sniping device presumably?

It would help reassure any of our other allies currently in conflict with the french I suppose

AL

Funny, that many of those same F-35 Critics. Hardly, complain about the crash of the Su-35 and its lack of export success. Nor, the much troubled A-400 Program…………….:rolleyes:

Clearly, a double stanard!:eek:

Hmmm

Maybe

Genuinely that may be the case

But also it is a common human trait to take more notice of something which affects or is of interest to us. I suspect that there may be more posts criticising F35 than other aircraft but that’s because there are more posts ABOUT F35 than other aircraft. Even if that’s not the case honestly would you be grabbed by a post on the failings of the A400M and the shennanigans and apparent incompetence*?

You LIKE the F35. Great. Nowt wrong with that. This is a forum for fanboys and anyone who says otherwise is …….. well probably right as well to be honest.

But presumably that means that you look at any F35 thread in the hope of seeing cool images, new images, good news, interesting specs on a warplane which you like. If said forum contains criticisms then that’s gonna disappoint. That does not necessarily mean (but sadly nor does it preclude) that anyone dissing the Lightning is a complete **** with double standards and a bad haircut.

No doubt your criticisms of Typhoon/Rafaele/Su-xx/Mig-xx are made as you see factual errors or a general need to talk sense to the deluded. If they are worded in a way which sounds snappy that is probably a flaw of the medium we are using rather than active nastiness on your part. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that the same might apply to someone else as well?

Al

*disclaimer this statement should not be taken as an accusation of shennanigans or incompetence by people with more money and lawyers than me

The (half remembered) tale I was recounting occured between Journeyman and Corporate; whether that means that its something which I shouldn’t have heard or that I have bought into a complete load of BS I couldn’t say for sure.

Showing my own service prejudices here but I am sure that had a similar tactic been used prior to the successful invasion/liberation then it would have been called off. The thought of an SSN prowling the seas which your invasion fleet has to cross cannot be a happy one. Its almost immaterial whether said boat IS in those waters.*

The junta may have been desperate, power-crazed loons but I suspect that even they would not have relished the thought of losing their (quite limited) amphibious forces and/or most of their fleet if an SSN had been down south for the winter.

Quite apart from the complete failure to achieve the propaganda coup and directing Argentinian public gaze outward the Argentinians aren’t and weren’t bestest, buddy pals with all of their neighbours.

Anyway, history apart that’s my rationale for wanting Astutes for C1s! Since we’re in a recession I’ll take SSGTs instead, named after British Ales (come on, HMS HSB and HMS Pint o’ heavy would strike fear into the heart of any man)

Al

*UK SSNs were (and I think still are) strategic assets and required permission from the very top levels of government to deploy in support of an operation. And certainly there were reportedly reservations about the potential for the USSR to take advantage of any loss in SSN cover if the mighty Conqueror were sent to support Corporate. Presumably the junta would have known this and so deployment (or possible deployment) of such an asset would indicate UK resolve in the same way that withdrawing Endurance gave a signal that the UK did not have said resolve.

Probably much better suited to the human, physical & technical resources & tasks of the Brunei navy. I’m sure the Nakhoda Ragams were a vanity purchase.

Hell yeah. Although I am sure that Mr Whicker would disagree and point to the Sultan’s love of poetry

Al

C2 needs to be cheap, I can’t see the USN doing anything cheap right now, after all, LCS was supposed to be cheap and plentiful wasn’t it?

1. Agreed
2. Agreed (although I wish that I was wrong)
3. That’s a mean thing to say but agreed

The regional deterrence ship (Corvette to light Frigate by my reckoning) study does point to a significantly cheaper ship than recent USN procuremenrs

Al