Negative or transperancy scanned in on a cheap scanner? My gut feeling is that Consul has put his finger on it.
William
Is Faber still with us? He could be, judging from this website:
http://www.aviartnutkins.com/pages/luftwaffe_art.htm
William
A cross-check of the serials confirms one of the RE8s as having been built by Austin motors, while the Hawker biplane is a Hind.
At first I thought the aircraft behind the BE2 was a Gunbus, but on closer inspection I reckon it’s a dH-1. Anyone else agree or beg to differ?
William
Fair point Melvyn Hiscock and 25deg South. The late Ronnie Harker, though did hail from a relevent aeronautical background, with 40-odd years of service to Rolls-Royce as an engineer, test pilot and senior company rep.
Maybe someone at his publishers (Oxford Illustrated Press) was in awe of him – I just don’t know. Remember the book was published in 1976, before the era of word processors, so many (but not all) of the errors could be put down to careless typesetting.
The typesetting and desk-top publishing revolution of the last 20 or so years has made it a lot easier and more economical to produce books (and newspapers and magazines), but the primary responsibility for quality control has been pushed firmly up the line to the writer – which is the point that the two last contributors have been making, if I understand them rightly.
Nobody’s perfect, and in an ideal world author and proof-reader should be pulling together in the interests of making the end product as good as it possibly can be. This depends, though, on a similar level of knowledge from both parties.
If there is an imbalance, then things can go badly wrong. If a writer will not accept valid questions (Are you sure this is an An-24 and not an An-26? Of course I do. How dare you ask!! (Slipped that one in ‘cos an An-24 flew over the house yesterday!)) then the whole thing breaks down, alas.
William
I’ve just been revisting some old threads and came across this one.
I’ve also been reading the copy of Ronnie Harker’s book, Rolls-Royce from the Wings, that I found in a car boot sale not long ago.
It’s a valuable memoir of a career with RR, but would have been so much better if the publishers has employed an aeronautically literate proof-reader.
I’ve lost count of the trivial errors, but they literally come at the rate of about one a page. Photographs wrongly captioned (Spitfire I described as a V), names mis-spelt (‘John Fozzard’ of Harrier fame) and simple errors of fact (Warwick listed as a Vulture application, yet no mention of the Blackburn B20) and so on.
It brings out the anorak in me – yet a publisher owes a duty to both author and book-buyer to get the damn thing right first time. Bit like the aviation business, really.
William
I did wonder myself if it was an Anzani. Floated the idea to the museum crew, who said it was a French bike. This was the point where I reckoned that, in the nicest possible way, they hadn’t really got a clue.
I wonder if it gets a little, erm, interesting when fully warmed up, seeing as how the topmost cylinder is partially embedded in the fuel tank.
I’m told that it’s a pig to ride, BTW. I won’t go on, as this is a planes and not bikes forum – although from my experience they often go hand in hand.
William
I once worked with someone in the 70s who in an earlier life had flown one into the side of HMS Victorious. Which accounted for the fact that half his skull was stainless steel, or maybe titanium…
Ouch!!!
William
The CAACU Mossie (TA634) that pitched up at Liverpool in the early/mid 1960s was silver with yellow undersides. Attached pic has been posted before on another thread, but here it is again for reference. Can’t speak for the top sides, though.
William
I was badly frightened by a Sea Fury when little more than a toddler. From what my dad told me later, I think it was the very last display at RAF Hooton, circa 1956.
I don’t think I was at the ‘bird man’ display at Liverpool the same year, although I do have memories of displays at Speke from the era. The clearest is of an air-to-air refuelling flypast involving, I’m pretty sure, a KB-50.
I was also, incidentally, at school with Clive Barker whose account of the ‘bird-man’ accident has been cited. Somewhere there’s a photograph of us together in the school play – I was the star and he was my sidekick. Now he’s a millionaire: where did I go wrong?
The serious showgoing started at Tern Hill for the BoB show in 1965. I’ve only missed four Farnboroughs since 1968 (which reminds me, I must sort myself out for this year…)
William
FWIW my picture of an FRU Meteor (WM295) dated April 20 1968 shows yellow rather than green undersides. It’s scanned in on my laptop, which is away for repair, so I can’t show it yet – not that it’s much different from those that have already been posted.
I have lodged in my memory banks a very clear sighting of a silver and daygo HS125 at Broughton circa 1964 or 65, clocked on a school factory trip when I was about 12 or 13.
Equally vivid are the sightings of the two final Comets complete and gathering dust, to fly a few years later as the Nimrod protypes XV147 and 148.
Cameras, alas, were not allowed, so until Microsoft comes up with a way of downloading images from the human brain, you’ll just have to take my word for these.
I have seen B&W photograph of the HS125s before they were repainted in red and white – anyone got a colour one? And does anyone have any pictures of those Comets before they were Nimrodised?
William
Crickey, that was quick! Maybe 60 seconds between posting and then realising I’d forgotten to add the attachment. Dohhhh!!!!
William
Just my two pennyworth…
Bremen, December 1980.
William
Anyone know if there’s a chance of it making the public days at Farnboro’ in July?
William
Is someone trying to get a Stuka airworthy in the UK?
As far as I know there are only two intact Stukas left,one in the UK and the other in the US, so the chances of seeing an original in flight again seem rather thin.
I’m open to correction, but wasn’t the UK’s Stuka started and taxied for the Battle of Britain film in the late 60s? I seem to recall that it was even planned to fly it until a fairly late stage. Can anyone confirm (or deny)?
William
Can’t quote squadron numbers, but I’m pretty sure the RAF’s last piston fighter was the dH Hornet, used in Malaya in the mid-1950s. Less sure about the Navy – Sea Hornet or Sea Fury, again mid-1950s, I’d guess.
At the risk of sounding over-pedantic, though, what constitutes a fighter here? The Hornets in Malaya are regarded as fighters, but their role was more ground attack and as far as I know were not involved in air-to air duties.
If we’re talking strictly air to air, then maybe the answer as far as the RAF is concerned should be a late-mark Spitfire in the fairly early post-war years before the Meteor and Vampire became universal.
William