So the Kh-58U are a Russian developed missile used only by russia & Ukraine?

I’m wondering how many Kh-58’s the Ukraine have traded/gifted to the US. I’d imagine the weapon is comprimised by now and weaknesses and ways to exploit it understood. Pure conjecture on my part of course but I don’t see it as being unlikely.

The way the TVM system operates, Patriot can take cues from offboard sensors (i.e. telling the radar where to look to find the target), but has to prosecute the engagement itself. PAC-3 ERINT is an ARH missile, so it could possibly be fired based on off-board cues, but you can’t fire a TVM PAC-1 or PAC-2 based solely on off-board targeting as far as I know.

Thats interesting to know,cheers. It’s shame they can’t do the whole off-board targeting thing though. Seems like a wise way to go about business to me so maybe they will look into it one day.

Vietnam/irak/afghanistan alll domination air…..but no domination terrain/ground

Greetings

Iraq was dominated on the ground with the help of airpower especially, see Fallujah, Ramadi, Basra, Sadr city for examples. The insurgency was pretty much obliterated and the remaining ones chose not to target the coalition anymore as it was to dangerous so instead resort to bombing market places and mosques in the hope of inciting civil war, that too failed.
(you might not like it but it’s fact)
If the coalition had failed to dominate the ground they would have been destroyed in the first year there.

In fact if you look closer at the budget, specifically page 1-15 (exhibit P-5, page 3 of 9) you will see that the actual fly away costs for 20 aircraft in each of those years is 2736.529, 2749.342, and 2927.768 million. Not much variance. In fact the flyaway cost never exceeds 146.3 million each. A far cry from the $180+ million being quoted by some of the trolls.

Informing members of that fact won’t stop the troll-like behaviour seen in this thread.

Though why I’m wasting time and energy arguing with someone who can’t spell ‘detrimental’,

Have you any idea how stuck up and snobish that comes across as? Oh and as far as i can tell it was me and not him arguing against international aid. Reading comprehension, try it some time mate.

Brown says we have enough helicopters….? Same Brown who said the UK will lead world in economic recovery? Same Brown who said the UK was well placed to weather the financial storm? Same Brown whose cabinet collegue said we could go to Helmand and not fire a shot? Same Brown who said the NHS and the UK is the best placed nation to deal with swine flu? The same Brown who said he wanted a new more honest and open politics?

The man’s mouth moves but nothing comes out.

A+

Here we go again…the 250 mil. does include spares, service, infrastructure. The fly-away price is ~ 140 mil…

Sorry “to ruin your bubble”…

He’ll never except it because from reading through this thread it is perfectly clear that
(A) He doesn’t understand economics
(B) He’s simply looking for an argument.

Take your pick. I’d say A and B.