kodakI apologise if this has been aired before but what happened to the Harriers that went to Thailand. According to an Ozzie mate (who inhabits this forum from time to time), they were flown a bit, found too tricky and were consigned to the back of a hangar. Any updates?
301Squadron of the Thai Navy still fly AV8S & TAV8S aircraft – still in gorgous light grey/white with hi-viz markings (similar to the pics of G-VTOL)
Got some images of G-VTOL in the “desert” scheme somewhere. Has anyone got pics in the short lived private demonstrator scheme??
kodakWhen I look at WP964, I think it’s a shame that people can mess up a nice chipmunk like that. Can’t they buy some cheap silly modern kitt and built some new plane. :rolleyes:
So you might guess that I don’t like this modification. 😉
J.V.
Those “people” were the Army Air Corps who used this one off chippy to train IIRC forward air controllers and needed a more combat – looking machine rather than a bright red and white trainer. Much rather have this official scheme than the Red Bull sea vixen
kodak[QUOTE=J Boyle]
😀 Chippies are hardly rare and not particularly historic,
QUOTE]
Not historic!? Chippy first flew in December 1946, thats like saying the DC6, Bell X1, Westland Wyvern etc are’nt “historic” -they all flew in 1946!
kodakFinningley Battle of Britain at home day, 20 September 1980 – The show was also to feature a White Horse Whiskey aerobatic competition and the Queens Cup Air race. The race was flown the next day, won by a Cessna 180, second was Den Penrose’s Arrow Active!!
full list from my records;
ANDOVER CC2 XS791 RAF 32SQN
ANDOVER E3 XS610 RAF 115SQN
ARGOSY C1 XN819 RAF Fire dump
BUCCANEER S2B XV868 RAF 12SQN
BULLDOG T1 XX543/F RAF Yorks UAS
CANBERRA PR7 WJ817 RAF 13SQN
CANBERRA PR9 XH165 RAF 39SQN
CANBERRA TT18 WJ639/39 RAF 7SQN
CHIPMUNK T10 WG407/81 RAF 9AEF
DEVON C2 VP981 RAF BBMF
DEVON C2/2 WB530 RAF 207SQN
DEVON C2/2 WB533 RAF 207SQN
DEVON C2/2 WB534 RAF 207SQN
DOMINIE T1 XS726/T RAF 6FTS
DOMINIE T1 XS728/E RAF 6FTS
DOMINIE T1 XS737/K RAF 6FTS
DOMINIE T1 XS739/F RAF 6FTS
GAZELLE HT3 XX396/N RAF 2FTS
GAZELLE HT3 XZ940/O RAF 2FTS
HAWK T1 XX174 RAF 4FTS
HAWK T1 XX239 RAF 4FTS
HAWK T1 XX294 RAF 4FTS
HAWK T1A X9 RAF RED ARROWS team
HERCULES C1 XV190 RAF LTW
HERCULES C1 XV203 RAF LTW
HUNTER FGA9 XE597/F RAF 2TWU
HURRICANE IIC LF363/GN-F RAF BBMF
JAGUAR GR1 XX824/BH RAF 14SQN
JAGUAR GR1 XZ397 RAF 226OCU
JAGUAR T2 XX834/U RAF 226OCU
JET PROVOST T5B XW293/Z RAF 6FTS
JET PROVOST T5B XW287/P RAF 6FTS
JET PROVOST T5B XW291/N RAF 6FTS
JET PROVOST T5B XW296/Q RAF 6FTS
JET PROVOST T5B XW298/O RAF 6FTS
JETSTREAM T1 XX482/J RAF 6FTS
JETSTREAM T1 XX491/K RAF 6FTS
JETSTREAM T1 XX493/L RAF 6FTS
JETSTREAM T1 XX499/G RAF 6FTS
LANCASTER B1 PA474/AJ-G RAF BBMF
LIGHTNING F3 XP702/N RAF 11SQN
LIGHTNING F3 XR751/A RAF LTF
METEOR T7 WF791 RAF VINTAGE PAIR
NIMROD MR1 XV248 RAF KMW
PHANTOM FGR2 XV426/Q RAF 228OCU
PHANTOM FGR2 XV406/A RAF 23SQN
SEA KING HAR3 XZ586 RAF 202SQN
SEA KING HAR3 XZ589 RAF 202SQN
SEA KING HAR3 XZ596 RAF 202SQN
SEA KING HAR3 XZ597 RAF 202SQN
SHACKLETON AEW2 WL741 RAF 8SQN
SPITFIRE IIA P7350/QV-B RAF BBMF
SPITFIRE PRXIX PS853 RAF BBMF
SYCAMORE HR14 XJ380 RAF 22SQN Preserved
VAMPIRE T11 XH304 RAF VINTAGE PAIR
VICTOR K2 XH671 RAF 55SQN
VULCAN B2 XM652 RAF 44SQN
VULCAN B2 XL389 RAF 9SQN
WESSEX HC2 XS675 RAF 22SQN
WESSEX HC2 XV720 RAF 22SQN
WESSEX HC2 XS677/BY RAF 240 OCU
WHIRLWIND HAR 10 XP344 RAF 202SQN
WHIRLWIND HAR 10 XP347 RAF 202SQN
WHIRLWIND HAR 10 XP352 RAF 202SQN
WHIRLWIND HAR10 XD186 RAF 202SQN
SEA FURY T20 WG655 RN FAAHF
SEA HARRIER FRS1 XZ456/103 RN 899SQN
SEA HAWK FGA6 WV908/A-188 RN FAAHF
WASP HAS1 XS817 RN 829SQN
BASSETT CC1 XS765 MOD A&AEE (Queens Flt scheme)
CANBERRA B6(MOD.) XH568 MOD RSRE Bedford
VISCOUNT XT661 MOD RSRE Bedford
CF104G 104842 CAF 421SQN
MIRAGE F1C 228/30-MU French AF EC2/30
A-10A WR/77-0263 USAF 81TFW
A-10A WR/77-0269 USAF 81TFW
C-5A 69-0015 USAF 436MAW
F-111F LN/70-2412 USAF 48TFW
F-15A BT/75-0051 USAF 36TFW
F-15A BT/75-0068 USAF 36TFW
F-5E 74-01544 USAF 527TFTAS
KC-135R 63-8028 USAF 30ARW
OV-10A 67-14641 USAF 601TCW
AA-5A CHEETAH G-BFIL/106 Private
AA-5A CHEETAH G-BFTE/256 Private
ARROW ACTIVE II G-ABVE/48 Private
BEAGLE B121 PUP 100 G-AZDA/139 Private
BEECHCRAFT SIERRA B24R G-BBVJ Private AA
BELL 206A JET RANGER G-ICRU Private
BELL 206L LONG RANGER G-WARM Private
BELL 206L LONG RANGER II G-LONG Private
BELLANCA 17-30A SUPER VI G-VIKE/147 Private
BLACKBURN B2 G-AEBJ Private BAE
BN2 ISLANDER JY-DCA Private ROYAL JORDANIAN FALCONS
CAP20LS-200 F-GAVB Private
CESSNA 180 G-ASIT/64 Private
CESSNA 210M OO-CNJ Private
CESSNA 310Q G-BAVE/9 Private
CESSNA 337D G-AWVS/41 Private
CESSNA 402B G-BCBI Private
CESSNA F172N G-MICK Private
CESSNA F177RG G-AZTW/131 Private
CESSNA F177RG G-BAGN/78 Private
CESSNA T210L G-BEYV/2 Private
CHEROKEE ARROW 200D G-AZSF/80 Private
CRANFIELD A1 G-BCIT Private
DEVON C2/2 WB533/G-DEVN Private
DRAGON RAPIDE NF875/CH-603 Private
FG1D CORSAIR NZ5628 Private
FUJI FA200-160 G-BDFS/21 Private
DH87 HORNET MOTH G-ADNE/54 Private
J/1N ALPHA G-AJEH/93 Private
JETSTREAM 200 G-BCWW Private
JODEL D150 MASCARET G-AVEF/32 Private
MAULE M5-235C G-MAUL/27 Private
MBB BO209 MONSUN 160FV G-AYPE/98 Private
NORD 1002D G-ATBG Private
PITTS S2A SPECIAL G-BADW Private ROTHMANS AEROBATIC TEAM.
PITTS S2A SPECIAL G-BADX Private ROTHMANS AEROBATIC TEAM.
PITTS S2A SPECIAL G-BDKS Private ROTHMANS AEROBATIC TEAM.
PITTS S2A SPECIAL G-BGSE Private ROTHMANS AEROBATIC TEAM.
PITTS S2A SPECIAL G-SOLO Private ROTHMANS solo
PITTS S2A SPECIAL JY-RJG Private ROYAL JORDANIAN FALCONS team
PITTS S2A SPECIAL JY-RJH Private ROYAL JORDANIAN FALCONS team
PITTS S2A SPECIAL JY-RJJ Private ROYAL JORDANIAN FALCONS team
PROVOST T1 XF877/G-AWVF Private
ROBIN R1180TD AIGLON G-CRAN/106 Private
ROBIN R2112 ALPHA G-RAFC/137 Private
SEMILNOLE 180 G-BGTF/73 Private
SENECA 200T G-BDRI/34 Private
SIAI-MARCHETTI SF260 G-BDEN/69 Private
SPITFIRE FXIV RM689/G-ALGT Private RR
STEPHENS AKRO G-RIDE Private
TORNADO F2 ZA254 Private BAE
TWIN COMMANCHE 160 G-ASRO/47 Private
TWIN COMMANCHE 160B G-AVHZ/7 Private
VARSITY T1 WJ945/21/G-BEDV Private
WALLIS WA116 G-ARZB Private
ZLIN Z526 AKROBAT G-AWJX Private
kodakThought this thread might have been about the two Chipmunks at Gatow, Berlin in the 60s. 😉
,70s & 80s. One now with the bbmf
Spose the other Chippy warbird could be the “spitmunk” – a standard T10 in AAC camo that the BFWF had in the mid 70s -early 80s.
kodakwith one aircraft from every RAF squadron on show.
Apart from a certain very secret Nimrod equipped “reconnaissance” squadron and the TWUs shadow units – 63, 79 & 234!
Great day – easily one of my more notable aviation memories. Anyone remember that great idiot of a defence secretary (was it Mulley or something??) falling asleep next to the Queen during the fabulous flying display?? BBC TV had it well televised – is it possible that the BBC (and other networks) still have this and other air show programmes in their records?? I recall every Farnborough receiving large amounts of TV coverage – be great to see them again!!
kodakREMEMBER IT WELL!!!
Probably the only show I’ve been to where pretty much nothing flew due to the November like conditions. Weather was only slighly better at Coltishall’s show the same day but a lot of participants were weather locked in Yorkshire including the BBMF. Great to see, I must get some of mine out.
Great flying display was lined up – back in the days when the only foreign participant was the Jordanian Falcons and only a couple of warbirds were needed for a great show due to the awesome RAF presence.
kodakThe thing is although the Vixen is a inportant part of British history its not a Aircraft which flew to save our country like the Lanc,Spit and Hurricane did and to put any logo on Types that so many people died fighting for us in would just be a crime.[/QUOTE]
Mmmm… I would hope that the many men of the FAA who flew these beasts from carriers all over the world will take umbridge at that comment. OK the vixen never saw combat but it was designed to do the same job that lancs, spits, hurris etc etc did and everyone involved with them was trained to do it. Just becasue they were’nt called up to “save our country” we shouldnt think of them as any less important than the rest. I believe that any warbird (or potential warbird) should have (and I’ll use the word again even for an inanimate object) dignity, if not for the machine then for the designers, engineers, crews who spent their lives working and dying with them.
The post was titled “Red bull sea vixen – how do you feel now” – I feel the same – I hate it but to some of you that means a barrage of abuse because God forbid, I feel differently to most of you. As someone said, long live free speech!?
My bottom line is – if its a unique example of a machine then keep it in an accurate scheme for the benefit of those who didnt see them when they were in service. If there are several examples around then use one of them as an advertising board, as long as there are some accurate ones also.
kodakIf aeroplanes are mere “nuts ‘n bolts” and bent pieces of metal why are we all here – why do we all refer to them as “she” and why do we all proudly display our photographs, anecdotes, stories of these “mere” flying objects. We all get pretty passionate about them in some shape or form and because of this, I’m here to say I would much prefer to see the original colours.I think it looks crap and as you said – it was designed to unfortunatley kill people, not be paraded around like a tacky advertising board – thats the job of Pitts Specials, Extras, Zlins etc etc.
kodakThanks for clearing that up about the availability of paint – as I said its just what I had heard.
The Graffitti Hunter is an accurate representation of an actual service Hunter that was painted by Fliegerstaffel 20 in IIRC 1995 – so thats fine!
As for G-FIRE, G-HUNT, G-BOOM,G-FURY, G-PROV etc – all awful
The thing about JPs, chippys, utterly butterly stearmans, hunters, even spitfires etc is that there are quite a few left still in authentic paint schemes so a few odd ball civvy liveries can be acceptable. The cvix is unique – some would say its even more unique now in that awful scheme, but not me. Return its dignity please!
kodakDoes Gazza Numan still fly?? Been years since I’ve seen him at a show – had heard he had given up following the loss of close friend??
bring back the SEAC display team with Harvards, “zero” and C45 – hilarious commentary and ricochet (correct spelling!?) gun sound effects.
kodakWhat on earth are you doing starting a thread at nearly 1am in the morning!!??
I hate it, dispise it, loath it, worse thing ever – Red Bull could have sponsored this machine without the paint job IMHO, after all their Corsair looks nearly OK.
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow03/zeltweg/06.htm
However, if they do intend to return it to its original scheme and bring back the proud honour of a former war machine and the FAA and not some cheap tacky show-biz act, then isnt there a problem? I did hear that 899sqn had intended to repaint its 25 anniv display sea harrier in extra dark sea grey/ white to look like Shars when they first entered service. But it would appear that no-one can source E.D.S.G. hence it being repainted blue, similar to the “Admiral’s barge” scheme. Any truth in this? If so then its buggered .
Should have left it in the drone scheme – just how eyecatching was that!?
kodak4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS 4FTS………….
Did I mention I think it should be in mid 70s 4FTS colours??
What a great companion to the Gnat
Not a fan of display team schemes. Or how about the one off T12 green n white!?
kodakWho attended this Air Show and which are your impressions ?
I did and I do a reasonable Clint Eastwood and Sean Connery.
kodakThey were hardly likely to be flying over South Wales yesterday, though!
Why not?? Lyneham’s hercs are frequently out and
about at weekends – a 24/7 force. Sometimes in huge numbers – Ive seen up to 13 on low level missions on a Sat or Sun.
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