Artwork dated December 2010.

Are you really basing your belief that you think J-20 is coloured dark green based off artwork made of J-20 back when we didn’t even have clear pictures of it? Or is this some kind of roundabout way of saying that Tom Cooper’s initial J-20 art had an incorrect colour?

More importantly, why is Tom Cooper’s art from December 2010 even relevant considering all the clear pictures we’ve had of the various J-20 prototypes and LRIP aircraft over the past 6+ years. Does Tom Cooper’s art of J-20 made when we had no clear pictures of it, take precedence over every other picture we’ve had of it?

It was the 2010 prototype #2001 that has been rumored to be green. So the part about 2010 fits.

http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4075756

MOD will get 12 Ka-52s this year. It received 14 in 2016 according to plan, and an additional 2 ahead of schedule.

http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4076636

Shoigu says “new long range missile” will finally enter service this year. Likely, talking about the 40N6….

Yak-152:

? this is some light attack air tractor ?

Not sure if some of You are colourblind, but the J-20 is not green and the modernised H-6 are not white !!! :very_drunk:

I knew it.. someone was going to say it.

Your turn Y 20. Prove the J20 is green

Im not saying the H6 is white. I am just saying that the H6 is white.

I’m quite sure that u haven’t read my first posting in this thread. As I’ve said, once more saying it, Korea have done numerous feasibility research which always resulted to be not feasible. What got KF-X through was an extremely high price of current and next generation aircraft produced overseas. What ROKAF cannot afford to do is spend all this goddamned money on those foreign products and get blamed for the budgetary outflow to other countries, benefiting their industry and economy. I, myself, personally was also against KFX and wanted the ROKAF to stick with the F-35, build a FACO and build a trustworthy power for an air dominance in near future. Though now it has gone through, thus their reason for doing this is quite reasonable, just like what eagle spirit said.

Feasibility studies are always done but it doesn’t change anything.

Political parties use these kinds of programs as cannon fodder against each other. Who even knows what the truth is. The French aircraft carrier is just one example.

S.Korea just has to decide if this is all worth it. Is it worth going down this road. The country is embroiled in a political crisis right now. So partisanship is alive and well. Whoever signs off on a full development program will be the 1st casualty.

As aviation fanboys, who wouldn’t want another 5th gen project to watch for the next 10 years ? Im all eyes and your technical input is welcome. We can separate the politics from the technical. I am speaking strictly on the political side now because that is where the project is.

The point is to build your own aircraft for both economic and strategic reasons, obviously.

This will be a bottomless money pit and a drain on the tax payer and treasury. And since they are starting from rock bottom with a clean slate design, it will become a political scandal and a national embarrassment just like the F 35 is. Cost overruns, unforeseen problems ect.

There is no economic reason to do this

I do wonder about the choice of Lockheed Martin as foreign partner when it comes to building what amounts to direct competitor to LM’s own F-35.

Also, I wonder if Japan’s recent ATD-X rollout had anything to do with the decision in favour of the more ambitious twin-engine design. 😉

Just when projects like this look like they are being mothballed, they pop up again. Korea, Japan, Turkey and the UAE project are all putting the squeeze on F 35 production numbers.

I think Pierre Sprey is going to be right. There won’t be more than 500 F-35’s built.

don’t forget the yellow one. :very_drunk:

Now the J 20 has sported Pak Fa style camo and Raptor style camo.