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  • in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2150317
    KGB
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    Israel is not big trade partner and certainly replaceable. Middleastern countries buying $10b worth of UCAVs from China and Saudi king spending whole month in East Asia. Russian troops are now embedded with Iranian militias and they are wearing there patches. it very clear message. there is very little confidence in Israel anti-terror ability. look at Sinai plane crash. Israel suppose to know every thing around there.

    Those Airbus/Boeing are loan deals than trade deals. Russia still putting a lot pressure on wealthy Arabs to squeeze money out of them. I wouldn’t put past that airbase is in use.
    They are nofiying those in Middleast that buying Boeing/Airbus is like doing business with Russia. Rostec will have $1.5b profit. that’s a lot of profit for manufacturing firm that is supplier.

    Israel is not big trade partner and certainly replaceable. Middleastern countries buying $10b worth of UCAVs from China and Saudi king spending whole month in East Asia. Russian troops are now embedded with Iranian militias and they are wearing there patches. it very clear message. there is very little confidence in Israel anti-terror ability. look at Sinai plane crash. Israel suppose to know every thing around there.

    Russia does not take ideological stands on foreign relations and trade. I am not saying that Israel coerced Russia into not selling Iran the 400. Israel and Russia probably made a win-win deal. Ie Russia was incentivized to a deal with Israel as long as they don’t sell Iran the 400.

    Russian troops are now embedded with Iranian militias and they are wearing there patches.

    Right. Iran and Russia have the same goals in Syria and the so they are cooperating intensely. But that does not mean that Russia and Iran are tied at the hip ideologically like the US is with its Gulf allies. That is not the case. Russia and Iran have an intensely pragmatic relationship. Russia and Israel also have an intensely pragmatic relationship.

    Soviet-born Putin Ally Becomes Israeli Defense Minister of Israel
    https://themoscowtimes.com/…/soviet-born-putin-ally-becomes-israeli-defense-ministe

    Israel and Russia: BFFs? Netanyahu’s budding ‘bromance’ with Putin …
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/israel-and-russia-bbfs-netanyahus-budding-bromanc

    I wouldn’t put past that airbase is in use.

    It probably is.

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2150536
    KGB
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    Good to see the S-300s in action. But Russia need to stop acting completely dumb and think first and foremost of generating revenues and Iran will make a good customer as they are in need of an entire spectrum of weapons/systems.

    Other than the few limited S-300, there is a whole lot of stuff that Iran might need and require, like

    Buk-M2E/M3
    Mi-35M/Mi-28
    MiG-29SMT package
    New MiG-29/35 class (keep aside those Sukhoi’s)
    A-50
    Tu-204 based MPA/SIGINT/etc
    IL-78/76
    Bal coastal system
    T-90 (1,000 nos contract was discussed earlier)

    636/677 submarines
    11661 Corvettes
    11356 Frigates (close the stupid chapter of selling the unfinished ships to India, check the possibility with Iran.)
    22130 medium replenishment.

    Civilain
    Tu-204SM (stupid Russian fanboys believe that Iran has been ungrateful for ordering Boeing and Airbus after lifting of the sanctions. But did Russia even promote/offer the Tu-204SM/family other than the so-called all-in-one solution of Sukhoi SSJ to the Iranians?)
    IL-96-400M (make them pre-order the aircraft and use the funds in developing the aircraft.)

    These are some of the items that come to mind now…these will run into multi-billion dollars and stretched over atleast a decade. What Russia .

    Of course Russia had planned on selling Sukhoi Superjets to Iran. But Iran is turning to pull the same trick that Putin pulled on France with the mistral ships. Get tied up with deals with favorable out clauses. Then when something blows up relations wise, you have big leverage.

    But still. Iran totally shunned the Sukhoi which is a burn. Iran is a bad place to do business even as an ally. These Boeing deals are going to get so in the ditch. It’s going to be fun to watch. Iran might still have to order Superjets anyway now that Trump is in the white house

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2150559
    KGB
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    Israel may have made a deal with Russia to sell the 300 to Iran rather than the vaunted 400. Israel and Russia are big trade partners.

    Iran/Rus relations as it pertains to cooperation is not exactly swell right now. Russia was burned when Iran made those deals with Boeing. Obv Russia expected to sell some Sukhoi Superjets. Plus Iran had a hissy fit when Rus made it public that they were using their air strip.

    in reply to: 10 years in…..F14 versus Super Hornet #2151107
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    Western air attack with bad intel or malfunction of smart weapon kills civilians= evil or ineffective. Su-24 carpet bombs city using dumb bombs= kills only jihadi scum.

    Not to say that Russian intervention wasn’t effective. It just amazes me the slide rule morals of those applying standards. Bombs are going to kill innocents, period. I guess it just depends on your worldview who’s dropping said bombs.

    another point is that the “dumb bombs” on su 24’s are not nearly as dumb as people say.

    in reply to: Russia and UAE to develop new 5th Gen Fighter #2151274
    KGB
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    Ok … then I misunderstood Your post; SORRY.

    IMO it is clearly a new design in the same way the T50 is surely not a flat- or Stealthy-Flanker but a new design !
    Those are surely the same guys who think the J-10 is a Lavi-development and the J-8 is a development of the MiG-23. 😀

    Design philosophies and definitions in the west and in Russia differ quite a lot and the Russian philosophy is best described in this Australian report about the Pak Fa. So it is without a doubt that this new aircraft will share some fundamental features and design components as the Mig 35

    http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2010-01.html

    In the broadest of terms, the PAK-FA is a fusion of ideas and design features seen in late model Flanker variants and demonstrators, but incorporating specific stealth shaping features employed previously in the Northrop/MDC YF-23 ATF demonstrator, and the production LM F-22 Raptor. The PAK-FA is clearly a unique Russian design and is neither a copy of the F-22 or the YF-23.

    No less importantly, the PAK-FA is by Western standards a low risk design, following the Russian philosophy of “evolutionary” design, rather than the “Big Bang” approach currently favoured in the West, of trying to start from scratch with most or every key portion of the design.

    It is important to note that the Russian approach to development more than often differs from the Western approach, particularly that of the United States industry, with a much stronger Russian focus on risk management and risk minimisation. A powerful approach evident in the development of the Flanker family of aircraft has been, firstly, to plan long term, then to spread developmental risks across the series of planned new aircraft types and variants as well as parallel design/development activities. The benefits of such an approach are clearly obvious.

    The best illustration of how much more effective Russian systems development philosophy is, is that the development of the PAK-FA, with a projected budget in the order of US$10 Billion, was launched officially in 2002, concurrently with the launch of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program, yet the latter has experienced repeated delays in schedule, repeated problems with basic technology, and remains heavily laden with accumulated design risks as well as inordinately high and growing costs.

    If the objective is to produce a design on-time and on-cost without unpleasant surprises, there is much to be said for the Russian approach to systems development.

    Russian sources indicate that the prototypes will be fitted with a derivative of the existing Su-35S avionic suite to reduce risk and cost. It is likely that this strategy of risk reduction by the use of existing production hardware will apply to other key internal components. The use of the 117S series engine common to the Su-35S in PAK-FA prototypes is a prime example.

    Another example is the basic layout or configuration of the PAK-FA airframe design, which is demonstrably based on the T-10 Flanker series, with a large centre fuselage carapace, a pair of long serpentine engine inlet ducts, with inlets beneath a large LEX, the engines mounted in blast resistant tubes, which also provide the means for reacting empennage control surface and TVC loads, and a blended forward fuselage raised above the engine centrelines, not unlike the Flanker and F-14 series. The forward and centre fuselage design is therefore closer to the Flanker and YF-23 than the F-22A. The wing planform is closest to F-22, reflecting design aims in VLO shaping and supersonic cruise performance.

    Where the PAK-FA departs most strongly from the earlier Flanker, the F-22 and the YF-23 is in the aft fuselage design, and the moving LEX or Povorotnaya Chast’ Naplyva (PChN) design, intended to provide extreme manoeuvrability and controllability

    in reply to: Russia and UAE to develop new 5th Gen Fighter #2151292
    KGB
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    Pardon, but if I follow Your suggestion and use the gear, the engines (+ maybe avionics) and “build everything else around that” it has to be structurally, shape-wise a new design, a design no longer related to the MiG-35. Everything else is a Stealthy-Fulcrum at best, but not a fifth generation type.

    And what then do You get ?? something in the size & dimensions comparable to the FC-31 or a look-alike type.

    Deino

    U didn’t answer my query or if you did, i didn’t understand it. What counts as a clean sheet design to you ? If the engine location and landing gear dimensions/components are the same , does that mean its not a clean sheet design ?

    Because under the Russia design philosophy, they wouldn’t consider it a clean sheet design and they’d like it that way.

    Reason I mention landing gear and engines is because some people use it as a slight against the Pak Fa and call it a stealth flanker because it has similar landing gear/engine placement as the su 35.

    in reply to: Russia and UAE to develop new 5th Gen Fighter #2151308
    KGB
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    But then this is a fail even before it started ! You cannot develop a MiG-35-based fifth generation design. You can surely use some subsystems, but structurally and airframe-wise it has to be a new design.

    Even if all you do is keep the tried and tested carrier ready landing gear configuration and basic engine location/spacing of the Mig 35 and build everything else around that , you consider that a fail… ? why ?

    Clean sheet is starting form rock bottom. Everything can be an unforeseen problem. As they are seeing with the F 35.

    in reply to: 10 years in…..F14 versus Super Hornet #2151322
    KGB
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    The Tomcat is big and heavy for a fighter but carriers have operated some heavier aircraft. The huge A-5 Vigilante comes to mind for example.

    beautiful aircraft. Cross between a Avro Aero and a su 34

    http://img10.hostingpics.net/pics/567906RA_5C_Vigilante_0008.jpg

    in reply to: 10 years in…..F14 versus Super Hornet #2151326
    KGB
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    If you really want big AND heavy, consider the A-3 Sky Warrior!

    The Vigilante exceeded the Tomcat dimensions in length, folded span and wing area, but I believe the Tomcat had a higher empty and maximum take off weight than the Vigilante. The F-14 had greater span when unswept. Walking around both, they feel similar in relative size. The Vigilante was long and sleek, with a spot factor a bit larger than a folded F-14.

    I believe the A-3 still holds the record for heaviest carrier aircraft (not counting the C-130 trials). I always find it amazing that the A-3 could operate off the smaller Essex and Midway classes, but the A-5 and F-14 could not. Long live the Whale!

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/A3D-2_nose_wheel_collapse_USS_Saratoga.jpg/220px-A3D-2_nose_wheel_collapse_USS_Saratoga.jpg

    in reply to: Russia and UAE to develop new 5th Gen Fighter #2151340
    KGB
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    By the way do we have any artworks or concepts of a light fifth generation fighter project from Russia anyway?

    I think it is clear as hell that the MiG-29/-35 can’t be a basis of such a bird and it has to be a clean sheet design.

    Quite funny there are a few whif-concepts in several Chinese forums already circling…. :highly_amused:

    The second image I don’t know what it shows (other than a designation T-103) ???

    Russia rightly avoids clean sheet designs if it can.

    in reply to: Build an air force using only jets produced in Asia. #2151561
    KGB
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    HAL produced SU-30MKI´s, the Mig-29´s were built in the Soviet Union.

    we have a grey area

    The KnAAPO plant, which dates back to 1932, is Asia’s largest aircraft manufacturing site. It is between N Korea and Japan except way north

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2151608
    KGB
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    . As usual the useless RT gave a below than average coverage, even though their name starts with Russia.

    .

    Umm that’s not RT’s report. It is RUPTLY. Which is a separate agency that abrogates freelance videos. If you havn’t noticed yet, that is why RUPTLY videos never have commentary. They are just supposed to be visuals. Which this was.

    You call it useless yet it is what you use to make your point. Ha….ha.

    in reply to: 10 years in…..F14 versus Super Hornet #2151611
    KGB
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    I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised by the lack of vitriol in the responses, I well remember how fired up the F14 mafia was at the time, only a few short years ago. And I have to admit that to anyone with any bent towards aviation enthusiast, the parking of the F14 was a bitter pill to swallow.

    Having said that, I’m disappointed that no one knows how many Super Hornets have crashed to date. That’s one thing that is frustrating about military aviation……getting good, accurate, up-to-date safety information. I guess there is a security angle that inhibits the release of this information in comparison to the commercial world. I can find much data on any commercial airplane type in just a few minutes with web searches, and of course there is a website out there that details the disposition of all the F14 frames, the F18 SH, not so easy to obtain, but I have a gut feeling that it must have much better safety stats than the F14.

    Yeah whats the follow ups on those crashes ?

    There was the Canada crash, the Switzerland and Japan crashes all in a few weeks.

    But yeah the Tomcat is a sleazy/sexy looking beast. The Lisa Ann of fighter jets. It looks so big and heavy when its really not. It must have pushed the carriers to the limit compared to the Hornets

    KGB
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    In the original article about the 5th gen development deal story, and the preceding next 4 links in that thread, nothing is said about SU 35’s. Nothing about intent to purchase or contracts signed of any sort.

    I didn’t know anything of this su 35 deal until the Zerohedge article. And if you look at the preceding comments in that thread, almost nobody was operating on the assumption that there was an su 35 deal either.

    in reply to: Russia and UAE to develop new 5th Gen Fighter #2151990
    KGB
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    Yeah it’s fan art. Russia would never design a this fighter with those monstrocity vert stabs

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