I’ll admit it…I’m now officially impressed with the Bone.

Or give them Rafale and a couple of 2000 liter tanks… 😉

Kurt

Could not care less as long as he does not shoot..

BTW, why do you constantly leave Americans out of it and point to Russians only?

Because the comment was initially directed at Americans, all I did was turn it around and direct it at the Russians.

One thought came to me as I was pondering the situation that’s arisen around Gorshkov. I’m sure the Russians would want another carrier, but they also want more influence in the US’s back yard.

Someone in another thread made the observation that during most of the 20th century the ultimate prestige weapon in South America was the battleship or, barring that, a big cruiser. Then, Brazil and Argentina upped the ante and bought carriers.

That said, would it be a win-win situation for the Russians if they either sold or leased Gorshkov to Venezuela (with the same agreement – Venezuela buys the air wing) and crewed by a mixed Russian/Venezuelan crew? The Russians would get more carrier qualified crews for when their next one comes on line, they’d have access to a second carrier to cross deck when Kuznetzov is in the yards, and Venezuela would get the ultimate big stick ego stroke.

Oh, and both countries would strut like peacocks because they’d think they stuck it to Uncle Sam.

:confused: Exactly whould should a conventional missile launched on an US city achieve? Damage one block in Bronx? There is no use of such attack, especially given the massive retaliation that would follow… The only thing such attack is good for are few powerpoint screens presented at the annual meeting of your local tinfoil hat club..

USA are in greater danger coming from little green men than from Iranians. :rolleyes:

And what if the weapon had a chemical or biological payload? The fact is that the armed forces of the US are fielded to keep the attack from happening in the first place. If the attack can be prevented or intercepted, as mentioned earlier, the response to that attack and the outcry for the response will be somewhat less than, “Nuke them till they glow then shoot ’em in the dark.”

What would you rather see? The US defend itself and it’s allies so the response would be perhaps the destruction of the launch sites, or the offensive use of WMDs against the aggressor state? Because sure as God made little green apples, if someone lands a nuke on US soil we’re going to retaliate in kind and won’t stop until we’re good and sure that whoever did it will never bother us again.

Anybody got any pictures of the Sidewinder equipped Buccaneer S1’s of 800 Sqd during the Borneo confrontation? (ref “From the Cockpit 6 – Buccaneer S1” by M J Doust, page 46)

By the above account it was a crude in-field mod based on “a filed down 3 inch rocket rail”, not service released in any shape or form, they just did it and flew with it, but does anyone know if was it a viable/usable installation?

I recall seeing an interview with a Buccaneer pilot that flew S.1s that mentioned they made a fake Sidewinder out of soup cans and fitted it to the wing when they went through the Med and transited the Suez.

How would you know it’s a 7.62mm version?

The AK-74/101/103 would look near identical.

The curve of the magazine is too great for the 5.45x39mm AK-74 series weapons.

Where is 12F?

I’ve seen a number of “news” reports that are saying 12F deployed with USS Theodore Roosevelt and her battlegroup instead of returning to Landivisiau (sp?). Can someone confirm that 12F has returned home or in fact deployed?

From where I’m sitting, if they deployed, I would think that from an offensive armaments perspective, not to mention a maintenance perspective, they’d be very limited.

Thanks!

Kurt