There are some nice Hawk photos on Hypercale right now here
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/hawk75bp_1.htm
Daz, if you can track down ‘The Road To Biggin Hill’, by Vincent Orange, this tells of Johnny Checketts’ escape through Europe after being shot down too.
Another is Errol Braithwaite’s book about Chalky White, called ‘Pilot On The Run’.
Both these books were written with direct input of the pilots themselves, who were both 485 Sqn Spitfire pilots when downed.
That’s a shame. I really enjoyed that letter you posted, quite an eye opener
Sorry – your original message was far less than clear – so what you are TRYING to say is a TV character from the USA went to Britain to get people to join some anti-French group??
What exactly is the point of this thread?
Is it just the British? I thought everyone hated them.
And since when has Al Bundy been British?
Cheers Rob.
I had no idea how few roundabouts other countries have compared with NZ – we have them EVERYWHERE. I guess they’re cheaper than installing traffic lights and the traffic generally flows better.
Give over John,
My point I think was fairly obvious – that the US television industry is still going down a track that has proven failure after failure, and that it seems so stupid that they would consider investing in these shows still after such a poor track record. It astounds me that they are even attempting a remake of The Office, something that could never be easily done, as Ricky Jervais is a unique individual and I feel it couldn’t even be recast in Britain, near alone America or anywhere else.
No, I was not saying all Americans are tasteless – quite the opposite, if they had such bad taste all these remakes would have succeeded, wouldn’t they? In the end there have only been a handful of real successes from this list.
The fact that I haven’t seen some of them reflects that they did so badly they couldn’t even convince networks abroad to buy them, and believe me, we have bought a lot of cheap rubbish over the years, like the ones you mentioned, CHiPs, Knight Rider, A-Team, Baywatch and several other kid’s shows.
So, please, don’t read into this my dispersions on your entire race as you always seem to. I was making a comment about the industry – not the viewers.
Many US shows are brilliant – The Simpsons, Family Guy, Futurama, Mash – all original ideas too.
Hi Paul,
Thanks for those scans. I guess that may well be the case, either the original news report spelled it wrong, or someone else down the track got it wrong and everyone copied everyone else.
OK, so we’ve nailed the bloke, but which were his Spitfires? Hmmm. I wonder if they went to a Dutch squadron.
Some of those American words I’d never heard of – what is cruller?
And, how can you say caramel with only two syllabes? Isn’t that camel??
After all Steve Paterson said about the USA not having roundabouts, it seems they do, but they call them rotaries. I’ve heard of rotary engines, rotary lawnmowers, rotary clothes lines, but never rotary roads. Or traffic circles either.
As for that easy class one, well here in NZ a gut is your belly, a blow-off is a fart, and crip course I cannot fathom. Does that mean somone as thick as a crip can pass it?
Where does Kitty Corner and Catty Corner come from for diagonal? I’ve never heard that one either. Some of these are fairly obscure references.
Y’all is one of the most vile words invented in my opinion, it makes my skin crawl.
Odd that, as my spelling comes from The Waikato Independent newspaper, the Waikato Times newspaper and the New Zealand Observer, plus RNZAF Contact magazine, and from memory also the New Zealand Herald, none of which are connected. And the Independent’s info came from letters that came via Bill’s parents.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, just that it seems odd.
Funny Don, I thought of you as i typed this and the really frank letter than you posted last year that your uncle had written. I think period pieces like this are great insights when they speak openly rather than romanticise the story.
I would think the letter would have been written very late 1944 – this was a weekly magazine with fairly up to date stuff even from overseas. It was ultra up to date with news at home, as it was very politcal and current affairs based.
I wondered if it were a Halifax he was describing. One of those ones with the glass nose, but B17 also passed my mind as I read it. Other than that, maybe a Marauder based on the shape. Which aircraft had a gun above the nav table? It had at least four crew, pilot, co-pilot, air gunner and navigator. Of course, it may also be something like a Ventura I suppose.
What squadron would have two types of bomber, one more roomy than another?
I’d think he’s definately a Kiwi, he was from Wellington, and the magazine seldom dealt with foreign issues or articles. It’s a really very good magazine by the way, full of all sorts from humour to politics to news to gossip to film and radio and stage reviews. A bit like The Listener in content with the bite of Punch, it holds no bars when it came to knocking the Government, especially Peter Fraser. Some brilliant sarcastic cartoons too. And it didn’t mind telling the truth about the war – like this article. I have another similar article based on gritty “letters home” if anyone’s interested. I can transcribe it too if you’d like – about Kiwis I RAF as well.
Gits 😀
I had no idea you could launch torpedoes from aircraft at night in those days
JDK – cross posted there – is that for real? Why did they have to distinguish in this way?
Did the RAF also use them as torpedo carriers? Or were they in a different role like training gunners?
I did have my suspicions, but since I genuinely have no idea why it’s black, I thought you may be telling the truth.
Does anyone REALLY know why?
Thanks Nick. Looks great.