I am not really too clued up on what happened with the aircraft drawings as such, but I wonder, as well as the factories that were manufacturing an aircraft type, where else would a full set of drawings also have been supplied to?
Did the RAF maintenance units that did overhauls, etc., get a set of manufacturer’s drawings for reference? Or, as different types of drawings would probably be used for maintenance as opposed to manufacture, would there not have been copies made for the RAF?
I just want to add, Jonathon, I’m sure most will agree when i say you’re a most welcome new poster to this forum. I am certain that with your enthusiasm and helpfulness, and the fact that you can provide first-hand information from within the IWM, many people will be enjoying your contributions. It is great to see.
Well I have read of two instances during the war where aircrews in training used flour bombs here in NZ. And they of course were almost all training to become part of Bomber Command. One of these instances was in the book by the lady I mentioned earlier whom I spoke with a few weeks back, Nona Morris. The other I am still trying to remember exactly where I read it, but it was also in the South Island, Wigram I think, and it was Harvards used I think. I have also read of prewar RNZAF (or maybe the earlier NZPAF) dropping flour bombs on an exercise instead of practise bombs.
So in a round about way, yes Bomber Command aircrew trained with flour bombs, but maybe or maybe not in Briatain. Definately in NZ under the Empire Air Training Scheme.
Incidentally in the early part of the war NZ had plenty of flour. Later on we were exporting loads of it to Britain, and the RNZAF and NZ Army troops formed special units during the summers of 1943/44 and 1944/45 to harvest the wheat as labour was so scarce!
Thanks DaveM2. I guess it makes sense being a Ryan, but I’d never seen a single seat one before, especially in RAF camouflage.
I’ll keep an eye out for those films, thanks Dan.
Whalebone, wow, there’s more lsted there than I noticed. I’ll watch harder next time around.
Let’s not forget that there is a third Spitfire with the unit marking either removed or half-applied, the US one that began this thread. It is all quite a mystery.
Thanks chaps. So I guess the finflash was a precaution to protect it from being mistaken as a German bomber by British fighters then.
VoyTech,
On that photo of Closterman’s Spitfire taken side on, how do you explain the red of the roundels and finflash being so dark if the camera filter has eliminated the red of the lion? It simply makes no sense to me, sorry. I am convinced that the unit crest markings were removed physically with white paint.
Thanks Rob. Looks like a wonderful place to visit.
These two shots were two consecutive frames (still photography) from a 35 mm film. The same session included other such sequences were virtually the same scene was shot several times with various filter sets.
Was this information recorded by the photographer about different filters being used, or is this a deduction on your part (this is not meant to read as me being aggro or nasty, I’m just curious as to how you know this).
Great photos. Where is that cemetery?
Does anyone know why the Dh89 has an RAF finflash but a Civilian code? Is it based on an immediately post-war demob scheme?
Interesting photos. Thanks for sharing.
I’ve never heard of this place. Is it in England? Or France? And I assume the aircraft are GRP replicas?
Exactly Bomberboy,
That’s what I was trying to say in one of my points. A film crew like any group will be a mix of people who all have their own unique subjectivity. Just like us here. So compromises are made and facts omitted.
One point, Reality TV is factual documentary. It is just one style of making a documentary (a very cheap, nasty style that TV networks think is popular but it isn’t in reality!).
Although I would hate to think what the brave bomber crew veterans would think if someone said they were particiapnts in a ‘Reality TV show’ as opposed to a ‘documentary’.
It is British. Order your’s here
http://www.coinwatch.co.uk/award/bomber_order.htm
Official site and photos here
http://www.awardmedals.com/award/awardfrm.htm
(click on the New Catalogue Now Available link, then scan down left hand frame to Bomber Command Medal. These pics from the site)
The film would be awesome on DVD, great colour and sound on video though already.
Are there any Devastators still flying? They are not bad aircraft seeing them in the film.
Does anyone know of other dramatic films made in WWII in full colour like this? The colour really brings them to life and they are as good as documentary footage like The Memphis Belle. I doubt that the military co-operated as much after Pearl Harbor though (the attack, not the film!)
As mentioned on the most recent Bomber Crew thread by me, there was a medal struck. But they made them pay for it, so most said sod off.