Thanks Steve for that link to surviving Bristol types. That is a great site.
I am staggerred at how many Blenheims and Bollingbrokes remain today. I used to think it was a rare aircraft. Are any of those restorations close to flying?
And there seem to be a good number of both Beau types too. Not as plentiful as the Blenheim though. That place in Aussie with loads of Beaus in one facility must have dissolved and dispersed by the look of this list.
Are the East Fortune Beaufighters going to fly? Or the Hatch or Dayton ones?
I am saddened to see there are no Freighters still flying. One left NZ for Canada only a few years back in flying condition.
That’s really interesting that these two chaps had such vision to save all those aircraft. The Lizzies are not exactly plentiful but there are a good number around compared with many other types of that era.
I just found this site:
http://www.spitcrazy.com/simmons-1.htm
I just found this picture in my collection which I took at the Auckland International Airshow in 1992. It demonstrates the skill this team has in very low formation flying. Look closely and you’ll see all three planes!
Hmm, what the heck am I on? I totally misread your message, sorry Mark and everyone else.
I was talking about ultralight-class replicas of the Hawker Fury biplanes which are called Isaac Furies. The replica was designed by someone Issac I believe, and they’re about 7/10ths the real size – ie way too small as the pilot looks ridiculous in them. And up close they look like toys. Not evene worth mentioning on a Historic Aviation forum so I apologise profusely.
As far as the Iraq Furies goes, I am surprised any were left there in the first place as I thought they’d all been rescued ages back, and why on earth are people not doing anything about it. Perhaps we could swap them for some Isaacs Furies and the Yanks can use them for target practice.
What’s the story with these? Can you fill us in please?
There used to be several of them round NZ, I remember seeing three or four at an airshow in Hamilton in about 1987ish. Horrid little things. Why the heck don’t people make replicas the right size!
Sorry chaps, I had simply made an assumption that Guy had been shot down, I thought he had. She didn’t say how he came down, just that he did and I assumed he’d been shot down.
As for the fact that this other chap’s research says otherwise, I can’t say who’s right or not. Probably the researcher Mr Nesbitt. But of course they could be both right, maybe the foot was all that was left of his body, where there may also have been tatters of his clothing that revealed the laundry receipt. She mentioned that his foot had been placed into the coffin of another chap – I assume his navigators’.
I do recall that she said Gibson was not wearing his dog tags either. Naughty when on active service.
Thanks guys. I feel the Blenheim is a type of aircraft that played a big role but is somewhat neglected. At least a few survive. That goes for its descendants, the Beaufort and Beaufighter too.
Hmm, a Blenheim flying with a Mk 1 nose. Hmmm. I’m not so keen on that idea as I prefer the Mk IV’s lines anyday. But it would certainly make an interesting warbird, especially for Battle of Britain displays. It would be good if they could make it interchangable between the ugly but interesting Mk 1 nose and the lovlier Mk IV nose, using a big zip or perhaps velcro or something!! LOL
I have been wondering, did any Blenheims operate in France during the Battle of France? I’ve read that Hurricanes, Defiants and Battles operated there, but no Spitfires, and I wondered if maybe Blenheims or that other BofB veteran the Gladiator ever got used in the French defences.
I also wonder, at the time was there a general feeling of envy or even jealousy among Spitfire squadrons that they were not sent to the front lines in France in 1939-40? Or were they generally happy to be the defence rather than offence as it were? I assume they still made sweeps over the continent from Britain? There’s a famous photo of a Spitfire crashed on the beach at Dunkirk so they must have I guess.
Cheers Webpilot, that was very interesting.
Of course another very good reason why it wouldn’t have gone out live, even if they could have done so technically, is that no-one would have been listening to it as the raid was in the very early hours of the morning.
Roy must have been on 153 Sqn before switching to 106 Sqn. He was killed on 106. Here is his CWGC page if anyone is interested:
http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2073968
Yes I guess that is a very fair point Eric, it probably won’t have been a live broadcast. It’s hard to know what they ‘really’ did, after all we now know that all of Winston Churchill’s most famous wartime speeches were not actually Winston Churchill!
We’ll fight them on the beaches, etc. His real speeches were never recorded as they went out in parliament where recording was illegal, and he was too busy to record them for the BBC so they got actor Norman Shelley to record them.
Winnie later recorded them himself after the war, which are the genuine ones we here now, whereas the genuine wartime ones a re not ‘genune’.:confused:
There you are! I knew I hadn’t imagined this montrosity!
Lynnette Zuccoli’s ugly Italian jobby, better known as a Stipa-Caproni.
See Here
http://www.seqair.com/Hangar/Zuccoli/Legends/Legends.html
I have just looked out an article from the NZ Herald newspaper from the 2nd of November 1996. It is about the Confederate Air Force Beech 18. The author Lawrence Watt states:
“The Royal New Zealand Air Force assembled three twin-engined Beeches from American kitsets in the Second World War. One transported the American commander-in-chief, Vice-Admiral R.L. Ghormley, and his staff (including a future United States president Lyndon Johnston). Another plane was used by the American Legation. The third was used for aerial mapping and is now at the Museum of Transport and Technology (Motat).
Ghormley’s plane apparently disappeared when Vice-Admiral Halsey took over in late 1942. The embassy’s Beech lasted until 1957.”
I’m not sure where I read that it was in the colours of Macarthur’s transport, but I know I read it. Must have been a misleading piece though. And it isn’t the original, just in the scheme of Ghormley’s plane. So that clears that up.
Is the Royal Australian Navy’s Firefly still flying at all? I’d love to see a Firefly too, they’re such beautiful aircraft. I’d also love to see a B17 flying. They had hoped to bring one to NZ for Wanaka 94 but it fell through, otherwise I’d definately have gone.
Originally posted by Mark V
There are two I-16s and at least one I-153 still here (I will check today on the exact numbers) and three flew in a formation display practice sortie on Monday. Miss Torque (P-51) is part of the Breitling Fighters team for the weekend and I will be well placed to give here a pat during the airshow as I will be working as part of her ground crew. The weather is a bit mixed at at the moment but there has been flying each day so far this week including a full Breitling display on Monday and a duo display with the P-40 and Corsair yesterday. More soon.Dave: The Speights is great!!
There were three, actually maybe four, I16’s at Wanaka in February. I can’t recall the exact number – I’ll have to check my video I took. There were certainly more than two.
Yes, Speights is a great beer, but the Montheiths range is the best in NZ in many people’s opinions. Worth trying the original and the black, and the pilsner, oh heck, all of them!
Interesting to hear this about the Blenheims. I had never considered the idea of Bomber Command being involved in this way before in the Battle of Britain. I guess because it wasn’t mentioned in the movie! LOL
I guess the bombing of the invasion fleet was as important and as much a deterant as what Fighter Command were doing.
Oh right. Interesting. Do you know if they plan to restore it? I hope so.