I have just been going through some old issues of Flypast, and on page 8 of the June 1992 issue there’s a nice photo of the Tiger Mustang in flight. You can see where the paint was falling off around the bottom and down a whole strip above the mouth which started to peel so was taken back to the panel lines.
Just thought those with that issue may be interested.
I was very lucky to see the LA-9 at the Armore Airshow early last year, which was a total surprise to me and my mate as we hadn’t even heard it was going to fly. I believe it was actaully it’s first flight too! And it was stunning.
I would however have liked to see a few things. I am way too young to have seen the Sunderlands which I’d love to see (Kermit weeks should bring back OUR Sunderland to NZ!).
Everyone who’s ever seen a Canberra tells me they are stunning to see, again I am too young to have seen ours. Same with the Mosquito, I’d love to see one flying (soon hopefully the one in Auckland will take to the air)
I wish I’d seent he AFC Yak 3, which went overseas before I ever saw it. I wish I could see their Ratas flying too – I have only seen them static in the museum. Maybe some day. And apparently the OFMC Yak 3 is here now too, so fingers crossed.
There were a few Migs in NZ during the 1990’s which I never got to see. Don’t know what happened to these but you never hear of them these days.
I’d love to see a Lancaster flying. I’ve seen several static ones, but it’s not the same is it?
The one thing that bugs me is not seeing the Russian Sukhoi 27 team that was to appear at the Waikato Airshow in 1995. They advertised them for ages on TV and in the papers, and two or three days out the organisers cancelled them because they didn’t want to pay for the team’s hotel. W@nkers! Plus at the same show they billed a display by a Stealth bomber. Since only a few weeks before one had been at an Aussie airshow, we all thought it would be the same one on its way home to the USA. No – it was a con. They built up the crowd with crap like “Can you see it yet?” and then let off a ground pyrotechnic. There was no Stealth at all!!!!!! I paid good money for a gold ticket for that airshow, if it wasn’t for Sir Tim’s collection there I’d have been very very annoyed.
I think that Pete Coleman had collected a lot of the parts himself with a view of getting the P51D back into the air but never did, and all those parts went as a package to the AFC from memory. I will try to look into this.
Yes, John’s Mossie is still there, the most complete example in NZ. The paintwork is tatty, but otherwise in superb condition. He’s restored the interior to beautiful condition (apparently everything was ripped out of it when he bought it). He also has the Mustang, a Tiger Moth, two or three Harvards, three Vampires, two P40’s a Hudson and variuos other pieces of junk all crammed into that shed. Sadly no photos because it was so dark and crammed in the shed I’d doubt much would have come out. Plus he’s a kind of odd chap and I felt awkward about asking him if I could take photos. Nice bloke, very knowledgable, but not your normal run of the mill bloke.
Sadly a lot of his stuff is outside, including all the P40 wings and the Hudson wings. The Mossie is the only thing with its wings on. But at least he saved all that stuff and it has the makings of a great collection. It’ll be interesting to see what happens to them in the future.
Nice. So is that the ex-RNZAF Territorial Air Force P51D that Sir Tim had in bits? It had been stored dismantled under a house in Blenheim for decades by Peter (somebody?) who had flown them in the TAF.
My Dad worked in the Nelson region in the early 1960’s, on an apple orchard at Upper Moutere. He said that many of teh orchards round the region had bouight up the P51D’s as they were sold off. They used the wheels to make trailers, on which they mounted the Merlins, and they towed them round between the trees in the early morning with the Merlins going, and propsturning, to blow any frost off the trees. He said the area used to echo with the sounds of Merlins. A pity so many ended up that way. I wonder what they all did with the rest of the aircraft.
One such ex-TAF P51D does still exist at nearby Mapua, in the John Smith collection, complete but with wings gas axed off. I saw it in February.
Am I missing something here? A Bf109G and a Heinkell 111 were scrapped at Duxford as recently as the 1990’s?????
WHY!?!?!?!
Well, it seems at least one guy reenacts the RNZAF here in New Zeland. There’s proof here. However, he shouldn’t be smoking his pipe next the that aircraft!
Thanks for all this, most interesting. It’s sad to know that these great names are no more. They will live on in all our hearts though of course.
Thanks guys, especially Dave M2 for this post and the one on the link. I vaguely remember this now, I had forgotten all about that. A nasty business,
However, having spent nearly three years at Wigram, I am puzzled to hear that one of their hangars had a second storey, I never saw anything like that. No 1 Hangar has a mezzanine floor but that is the Museum hangar, so it won’t be in their. Did the civvies renovate one of the old hangars post-RNZAF?
I wonder if the poor AFC and OFMC managed to get any money back from that guy. I hope the FBI managed to convict him.
Ah, whoops, silly me.
Yours,
Mr Thick thick thicky, thick thick (Dave)
Could it be that the bulgy hump just had a rear facing camera in it? Perhaps for taking shots of an ME109 coming up behind it?
Actually, it would have been a good shot if they’d mounted such a camera on the two-seater that chucked the dummy off, so you see him fall off the Spit and float away.
Well done Arm Waver, I was wondering who would spot that deliberate mistake first! Just seeing if you all are paying attention. LOL
Thanks for correcting me, you are quite right.
That aircraft is the personal aircraft used in New Zealand during the war by General McArthur if I recall correctly, and the scheme is genuine. Something like that anyway. Someone will no doubt correct me.
Cheers Bob,
I just checked my old travel diary and found it wasn’t Decemebr, but actually the 27th of November 1993. Sorry.
Interesting that the two Catalinas were wearing the same colours.
I rmember in about 1992 there was a documentary on TV3 here (in The World Around Us slot) which followed ‘our’ Cat on a trip down the Nile doing the tourist route that she used to ply. It was awesome, and I taped it, but sadly I have either lost or wiped it because I can’t find any trace of it. Did anyone see that doco? I think the Cat was in a white scheme then.
Dave
Here is a photo of the other Bf109 I saw at Duxford, this one I do know about. But I just realised looking at this photo taken in December 1993, is that Catalina that is sitting in the background the one that’s now in NZ? It has the same colour scheme that our Cat wore when it arrived (it’s now in RNZAF Pacific colours and looks much better than this older scheme).
I thought our one came from Africa. Was it having maintenance at Duxford?
Thanks Glyn, that was a great link. An amazingly god look alike, it seems they have at least two, or was the photoshopped?
Now that’s the sort of ME109 they should use in flims rather than the Buchons!
Great stuff Galdri, that is a truly lovely Dak.
Naive of me I know, but I’d never really thought of Iceland having agriculture in this way. Everything I’ve seen of your country on television (and also when I flew over it en route) looks so rocky and icy. I guess like most countries there is a lot more diversity than the general impression that TV gives. Sorry.
I wonder if any more Ag-Daks are still working away anywhere. They are a rarity these days.