How expensive is it to build a decent looking full scale replica like the one Clive designed? Is it a viable option for a film company, say, to make a dozen, for use in film work?
Imagine a whole squadron of Mk 1s. They would be able to use them in not only films and TV but hire out the whole squadron for airshows too. Might be a nice investment. They could be syndicated out with a clause saying they have to get together for films and events. Or you could set them up on an old airfield and form a reaslistic theme park-style experince of a working Spitfire squadron in the Battle of Britain.
The BofB film had replica Spits to use on the ground, but maybe a film of the future could have a squadron of flying Spits to use in the background, flying along behind one or two real ones. That would beat CGI any day.
BUT would that be viable costwise? Or am I getting into the realms of fantasy now…
DaveM2,
Are you the author of the excellent Stuka and Me109 articles we’ve recently been treated to. If so, congratulations. It was a surprise to me to find just how many Stukas there are still about the place, even if most are in poor condition.
Interesting about the replica Stuka’s ‘accident’. It looked pretty good when I saw it last month.
Don’t feel too confident on the politician front though, I doubt this sort of thing will continue. In recent years the Govt sort to destroy Wigram, which was almost perfectly preserved in its wartime state for 50 odd years and would have made a superb NZ Duxford. I dear say that the Omaka grant may be a one off. If they want to fund aviation museums, both Motat and the RNZAF Museum could also do with a whopping grant to keep them going. And we know that will not happen!!
Daz – I have just ordered Piece of Cake on DVD. Yey! I can’t wait to see it again after all these years. I’ll look out for the BofB bits.
Dave
Wow, that’s amazing. So there may possibly have been complete other Spitfire Squadron threads cut from the storyline? I wonder if any well known actors lost out to the cuts.
I got the impression from the Mosley book that they struggled to get enough flying sequences in the can, due to weather problems, etc. Mind you, it has been ages since I read the book so I’m probably wrong. What a shame that the extra scenes may never see the light of day.
I guess it was from that pool of extra stock that Dark Blue World tapped into, so it must all exist. Were any of DBW’s scenes recycled staight from the final cut of BofB. I did get one or two pangs of dejavu.
Paul,
The “Entire current RNZAF Fighter ability” is in fact just a few blocks away, at RNZAF Base Woodbourne. All the A4k’s are tucked away there in a hangar, and not in the USA like most people seem to think. I saw them last month. The Macchis are also tucked away, at Ohakea. Hopefully they may stay there till after the next election, and we can dump Labour and it’s anti-RNZAF policies.
Daz – Thanks for that. And, yes, you are certainly much more expert than me anyway. So there are more scenes? I’d love to see a longer ‘directors cut’ on the DVD then!
Chris, two Stukas? Are you sure?
I saw the Stuka last month when I visited Omaka. Interesting to see. I don’t think the colour scheme is strictly accurate, but it is an interesting beast. The Hurricane is also in desert colours. I think it was a theme for last year’s Classic Fighters aishow.
Yes it did feature in the latest Classic Wings (Issue 44), in a feature on the Stuka with all known survivors, etc. There was another replica mentioned too in the same article. That photo of the Omaka one in bare metal must be old though Chris, look back in Issue 40, page 45 and you’ll see it virtually completed. It is probably taxiing now I’d think.
I think I photographed the Stuka too while I was there, will try to get photos posted soon.
Daz, as an expert, do you know exactly which scenes in BofB that the Omaka Hurricane appears? It was the first replica they built if that helps. Just curious, that’s all. I remember when it was at Motat. It used to be on a pole at the gates. All right for a while, but later some vandals attacked it. I saw it in the late 1980’s in a very, very sad state. So glad to see it looking so beautiful again.
Could a fibreglass replica moulded off the real thing actually be made to fly?
Nice picture.
Hey, now, here’s an idea… get the Roaring 40’s team to fly the Triplanes – there’s five of them. Imagine that with their aerobatic precision in these ‘older’ mounts, lol
Hi Dave,
I would suggest that you email the British Library Newspaper Library. Here is their website.
http://www.bl.uk/collections/newspapers.html
As experts in the field they should be able to tell you who to contact in France I’d imagine. Good luck
Dave
Thanks Becka.
I agree with Daz, it would be nice to get it flying. Especially since none do now.
I wouldn’t say no, Daz, but I would have to construct a to-scale Airfix stand to sit it on too (just kidding mate!)
Just a thought, but did any of the high-tech sonar scans looking for Nessie pick up outlines that may be the resting places of these Loch Ness aircraft?
Originally posted by Lancman
I met Clive at Wroughton ’94, when he was signing copies of his book about the Spit.It’s not brilliantly written to be honest, but enthusiastic none the less, and tells you all you would probably want to know about the ‘Spitfire’, and a few other projects he dabbled in during that period, too. No idea if you can still get it though sorry.
Anyone know what he does these days?
When the book was first released in 1994, it was available from Victory Books, 49 Victoria Road, Swindon, Wilshire SN1 3AY. I don’t know whether they have any in stock these days but if you’re trying to trace a copy it may be worth asking in case they have a few stragglers left.
David Brown mentioned similar replicas being built. Clive put the plans up for sale in 1994 according to an article in Classic Wings Downunder. Maybe people had bought those plans?
I think any aircraft, if you MUST build a replica, should be full scale like his Spitfire. At least then it will look right and can maybe make you some money in film work too.
Hmm, slightly embarrasssed but I just looked out my collection of Classic Wings mags. In issue two it says there were three ME110’s brought here. Well I never. It says there were two substantially complete, and a third which was ‘incomplete remains’. They only list work numbers for the two ‘complete’ examples. I guess the third was later simply counted as spare bits, and went with the others to Germany. Oh well, sorry to have troubled all.
Holy Cow! I never realised that began life as a Ford Telstar! What a vast improvement, lol
yes, I believe it is based there. Last year the NZ Army transported it up here to Cambridge for our Armistace Day celebrations. That is an even worth attending – we’re one of the few places in NZ that mark it. The Warbirds come down and display every year – last year was the P51D and the Roaring 40’s.
Anyway, that tank is, as you say Chris, incredibly authentic. I went up and tapped it thinking I’d get a hollow, fibreglass sound. However I got the dull, cold clank of steel. I don’t think it is really steel, but they’ve done a damned good job of replicating it. And when the fire the guns, WOW. There was a Stuart firing it’s gun too, and it sounded like a pea-shooter compared with the Mk IV. And the Stuart was real!
I will post a few photos when I get round to it.
Originally posted by dhfan
With the aid of Google, it was called Wish Me Luck.
The premise and time frame of this series sound right (hving checked it on IMDb) but I had no idea it ran to 23 episodes. I thought it was just a mini-series of no more than six. Perhaps TVNZ didn’t buy the later series’s or something. Cheers anyway.
Aerovin, any chance of seeing more of the slides please? Thanks.
Oh dear.
Can she recall anyone who was in it at all?
Cheers
Dave