ME110’s in New Zealand
I am just rewatching the Warbirds Over Wanaka 1994 video for the first time in years. Sir Tim Wallis is being interviewed and he states, I quote:
“Last week three ME110’s arrived. One of them skidded in on a frozen lake after being mortally shot. Sure the engines are damaged, but the whole aeroplane went underneath in the Spring, and fifty years later we’ve brought it out again. And now that’s back here in Christchurch, at Wigram, where in three years we’ll have it rebuilt to flying condition. And just out the back there, I’ve got a mint condition ME110 engine, that was still in a box, ready to go on. So we’ve got the engines, and most important was the airframe, and now we know we’ve got a flyer. We’ll be the first in the world to fly an ME110. That’s something isn’t it?”
Oh how I wish he hadn’t had that crash. I mean his collection is still amazineg and in a world league, but the potential it had up till that day in 1996 was for so much more.
Anyway, my point is, he said he had THREE ME110’s. What’s up with that. Every report I’ve seen he had two. Surely the great man cannot have been mistaken about his own purchases?
I have the TV3 news item from the day the 110’s arrived at Wigram. They are non-commital on how many airframes there were. They realy refer to it as a single aircraft simply because it is going to be restored as one flyer.
So, Did Sir Tim actually have parts from 3 ME110’s rather than the well-known two?
Regarding TV shows with Lysanders in, I just remembered this morning that there was an excellent British mini-series which was from either the very late 1980’s or early 1990’s. It was set in WWII and was about two women, one posh and one not-so-posh, who volunteered to become spies behind enemy lines.
The early episodes was about their training in the UK (I recall one lady was caught out and told off for pouring coffee and milk the wrong way round as the French apparently did it backwards to the Brits it seemed.
Later they went to France and I’m certain they were dropped in by a Lysander. I cannot for the life of me remember the title. I thought that Dervla Kirwan may have been in it but I checked her IMDb page and cannot find any reference to it so I must be wrong about her being in it.
Does anyone remember this series?
That is interesting. Was India involved with the Empire Air Training Scheme too (as well as NZ, Australia and Canada)?
I think that Rhodesia was also involved for a period with the EATS, were British aircraft built there too? And what about South Africa?
I’d forgotten about the Australian-built Mossies, some of our own postwar RNZAF examples were built there.
And, did Avro, Hawker, Bristol and others set up their own factories offshore like DH did, or was it more the case that they got someone else to do it (ie like Goodyear built Corsairs for Chance Vought, etc).
Were any other big British planes other than the Lanc built in Canada? Halifaxes perhaps?
Cheers guys. I didn’t mean to touch on a sensitive subject, I didn’t realise what had happened on the forum in the past.
My interest in asking is simply in the technical side of such a restoration, it must be a real challenge. Engineering seems to have developed so far in Warbirds circles. It’s amazing how well they can do these days in restoration.
Have there been any other Warbirds rebuilt or currently undergoing restoration after a bad crash? I don’t specifically mean a recent crash either, perhaps an aircraft recovered from a wartime crash site which burned?
Very sad about the Mossie. At least there may be a few flying again soon, especially here in NZ.
Thanks very much Lancman and Phil. That is what I was looking for. Very interesting to see this. The Lanc certainly looked odd without its turrets, and that wing makes things even more strange.
Dave
I agree. But I think the problem is that the costs involved would be so excessive, and as far as I’m aware (I hope someone can give me more details on this) there are several Venturas in existence in the USA in not bad condition, so the only group that would want to get this one would probably be the RNZAF Museum purely on its historical value. And of course they simply haven’t the money nor the manpower for such a job. So I dare say the poor Ventura will simply rot away.
Is the RAAF’s Ventura still flying? And the Hudson over there too for that matter? I’d love to see them. The Hudson in the RNZAF Museum is simply superb, it looks like new. I had the benefit of seeing it coming together over the two and a half years that I lived at Wigram and I was so pleased to see it on display in February when I visited there for the first time in ten years. Hard to belive it was once a chicken coop!
Actually after posting this message this afternoon I found an old message in the back-archives where the very topic of the authenticity of LF363 was discussed. It is also about the Rolls Royce Spitfire Mk XIV which is apparently being restored (something I found incredible!)
A chap called Bruce, who must have been involved with the restoration it seems, posted a detailed message about what went into the rebuild from the wreck. Quite a considerable amount by all accounts. It is very impressive indeed.
This makes me ask the question, was anything salvagable from the BAE Mosquito that crashed a few years back? Or the recent Firefly crash? Both very sad, but maybe someone can do something to get them back into the air?
That is an absolutely awesome shot, well done indeed
Cheers
Dave
Hmm, I thought I had a photo somewhere but cannot lay my hands on it. It looked reasonably complete in the photo. Maybe it was in Charles Darby’s “Pacific Wrecks” book?
There are some photos on this site which must be a lot later than the photo I’m thinking of and the ravages of time are taking a toll it seems. Pity. Someone should rescue it.
Apparently some parts were salvaged by the MOTAT team when they restored the RB34 Ventura (Lexington) in the early 1970’s.
http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/pv-1/NZ4522.html
Here is another page with more info on its crash by the way. http://www.pacificwrecks.com/walkabout/2001/
Cheers
Dave
Hi Phil,
Nice photo, very emotive indeed. Thanks.
Dave
Whoops, a little finger trouble there, I should have typed Rekata Bay, which is on Santa Isabel island
Cheers
Dave
It sure would. I wonder if it is still sitting there. There are loads of aircraft still lying were they came down up in the islands, including a fairly good looking RNZAF Ventura. I wish someone would retreive that and bring it home.
Dave
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Photo 1
Hi Kittyhawk,
Have you tried Pioneer in New Zelaand? They seem to be the most productive restoration firm of Kittyhawks in the world and probably can assist with parts I’d think
Here’s their website
http://www.pioneeraero.co.nz/
Dave