[QUOTE]Originally posted by trumper
[B]:( 🙁 Oh gawd not already,i know it’s the middle of the year over there but it seems too early from here
Errrr, what? It is not the middle of the year in New Zealand, it is March. We’re only half a day ahead of Britain you know.
😉
Dave
Thanks guys for the info
You can see pictures and etails of the actual models on this site, as well as models used in other films too
http://shipofdreams.net/pinewood/index.htm
Dave
I watched Dark Blue World the other night for the first time. It is very good indeed. Is it true they really only had two flying Spifires? Incredible if that’s true.
It is a very sad tale indeed really. Some lovely aerial sequences (both the old and the new ones). Was the young actor really in a flying Spitfire when he was rescued in France? It really looked real when he was sitting on the other pilot’s lap. Amazing take off and landing into that field too!
Were the characters based upon real pilots, or was it pure fiction built round fact?
Where was the film made? Was it all done in the Czech Republic? The UK base didn’t look too British, too many hills. Or am I wrong?
I just watched Hart’s War too. That was OK, a nice air battle between a Mustang and what looked like a BF108 too. Or was it a Buchon? Too quick to see.
Snow, eh? Lucky devils.
I just saw on One News that one of the pilots was Christopher Timms, a former Olypmic Gold Medallist in yachting – so a great loss to sport as well as aviation.:(
The other pilot has not yet been named.
Also, I flicked over to TV3 and caught a few second of the end of their item on the crash, and it showed Ray Hanna with his P40, which was in a Chinese scheme (yuck!!). Apparently the Fouga was practising for an airshow in Taupo this weekend, so it looks as if maybe Ray will be their? Anyone else se TV3’s item? Must watch the late news.
Cheers
Dave
Originally posted by turbo_NZ
I was always amazed at how much louder the Magister was in relation to the Vampire.
Was a beautiful jet and was very graceful in the air.Dave, was it going to be featured at Wanaka ?
As far as the website for WoW 04 goes it was.
http://www.warbirdsoverwanaka.com/
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It’s worse, both people died. See more here:
http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,3882-3187677,00.html
Dave
Has anyone here ever seen the advert made in New Zealand for Singapore’s Tiger Beer in 1992?
It featured a Mustang, Corsair, Harvard and others in an air race. I was in it, yet to this day never saw the final result. What’s more, I was on the team that painted the Mustang bright yellow and blue. I have some photos which I intend to scan very soon and post here if anyone’s interested. I’d love to see that advert. Happy memories of the RNZAF in its heyday (ie making TV ad with Warbirds and a French lingere’ model)
Originally posted by turbo_NZ
mmm,…vaguely…didn’t he have a handle-bar moustache ?
twisties,..yum !!!:D
Indeed he did. In fact he’d have fitted in very well with Fairfax and Carstairs in Allo Allo!
Speaking of adverts and aircraft, in the 1970’s/80’s there was often an advert in magazines, a full page colour advert. It advertised Jim Beam I think and the photo looked out the window of an Air Force building, with a leather flying jacket in the foreground, and out the window was a beautiful silver B17. Was this from a TV advert? Or simply was it just a one-off still only for magazine ads? It ran several years. It was often on the back page of magazines like The New Zealand Listener (a TV listing mag). If I find an example I’ll scan it to show you all.
Does anyone know what I mean? If so, was it done in the UK, or the USA?
Dave
And here’s another – both He 111’s this time
Patton
Yes, Patton was the first movie on my list. here’s a shot from the film
Pearl Harbor Heinkel
Here’s a shot from Pearl Harbor, yes, looks like Jumos
With all the talk of possible (wished) remakes of BofB and using CGI, I decided to take a look at Pearl Harbor’s BofB scene. Now that is one you are most welcome to pick holes in as far as I’m concerned. In noticed, just in this one viewing:
1) Ben Affleck was sitting, relaxing in a pub with a dirty face as if he’d just stepped out of his plane after an oil leak. No RAF officer would go to the pub without washing his face!
2) Yes, the last point may have been a bit tongue in cheek, BUT his English mate is drinking at the pub with his Mae West over his shoulder. What were Bruckheimer and Bay thinking? Did they think pilots had to carry them at all times like a gas mask???? I mean, yes, have it handy while on the station and on duty, but they didn’t take the bloody thing to the pub!
3) This might be picky, but given their huge budget, it annoys me that they have Hurricanes and Spitfires together in the same dispersal with all different codes. OK, maybe this did happen, but it just looks a little unprofessional on the filmamker’s part not to do a little cosmetics.
4) Here, HERE, is your mixture of three and four bladed props! (not that this really bothers me, but it is so much more blatant than the one fleeting scene in BofB that has been mentioned.)
5) That nerk Affleck saying crap on the intercom like “Hammer Down” for no reason, what rot!
6) Pilots not wearing their mask or goggles in combat, yet hearing each other perfectly (saying “Hammer Down!!” repeatedly it seems) despite the intercom microphone being nowhere near their mouths.
7) Affleck’s wingman who is there to protect him simply sits back and then says that there’s fighters all over his tail. Oh, good work mate.
8) After Ben shoots holes in the canopy it is seen totally intact again
And that was just the tiny Battle of Britain part. We all know much of the film is full of descepancies. Imagine if they’d set out to actually remake BofB though rather than Tora, Tora, Tora. Oh God!
Where were the Pearl Harbor BofB scenes filmed? Was that actually done in Britain? I mean it looked like british Spits and Hurricanes, but with US-based Heinkel and I don’t know where the Bf109e came from. Was it mostly CGI? Or were they US-based Spits and it was all in California? Most of the combat seems completely computer generated. Pause the DVD and often the planes are simply blurs and streaks. I do have to say I liked the fact that when the guns fired you saw the tracer and the cordite smoke. That’s about all though.
I just remembered that Heinkel 111’s also appeared in Pearl Harbor. I assume that was the CAF one duplicated over and over, or was it all CGI?
The amount they stuffed up in that film, I’m surpised they didn’t have the Heinkels flying over Pearl Harbor!
Dave
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JDK
Connery as Urquhart, Fox as Horrocks, Dirk Bogarde as Boy Browning and Hopkins as Frost all were cited as being very like the real charecters
I take back what I said then about the accents. I did know that many British officers spoke that way, but I had wrongfully assumed that this was another case of Hollywood getting the British actors to ham it up a bit.
JDK wrote:
And apart from the Sargent and young officer rescue, and Liv Ulman and Olivier’s charecter, almost everything else included is true. Some story!
I just watched the ‘making of’ documentary on disc 2, and according to that, the story of the Sergeant saving the officer IS true. It’s just no-one believed it. Apparently the US critics slated the film for making up a lot in the content. In this documentary they insist, and demonstrate, that the film was in fact telling the truth and through!. As usual, the critics were talking through a hole in their rrrrr’s
JDK wrote:
Er Gliders – actually, never snatch towed.
Well, you learn something every day – and it was only recently that I had read that they were snatch towed – having always thought previously they were towed as in the film. The article I read had photos of a Dakota snatching a glider – it looked very precarious. No wonder they DIDN’T use it in action.
cheers
Dave
Thanks guys. I should really have read my Mosley book again, but I knew it would be quicker and easier to simply ask those questions here.
However, (sorry to re-iterate), but no-one has been able to add to the Heinkel movie appearnces. Have they not been in any other films or TV?
My list was:
Patton
Dad’s Army (1971 film)
Adolf Hitler – My Part in His Downfall
And, had the Spanish Heinkels or Buchon’s been in films or TV before BofB?
Dave