The kiwis only won it before the rest of the world realised it was happening, since then things have been a bit different.
?? What a stupid statement. The rugby nations had been playing international tests for around a century before the World Cup, and the 1987 tournament had been in the planning for years before taking place. It was hosted by New Zealand and Australia, and teams from Britian, Europe, North and South America and Asia all took part. Your misguided thinking that “the rest of the world” hadn’t “realised what was happening” is pure fantasy.
Still think that despite NZ putting on a good show that it would have been a wise move getting Japan to host it.
Why? What are your reasons for stating this?
New Zealand has won the William Webb Ellis Cup once, the inaugral tournament in 1987. England They were runners up in 1995 and played well in the final despite all the team being very ill following being poisoned by bookies who paid a woman to spike the tea urn in their hotel. The Australians and the South Africans have won the cup twice each, and the English just once.
What am I supposed to be taking note of??
New Zealand has won the William Webb Ellis Cup once, the inaugral tournament in 1987. England They were runners up in 1995 and played well in the final despite all the team being very ill following being poisoned by bookies who paid a woman to spike the tea urn in their hotel. The Australians and the South Africans have won the cup twice each, and the English just once.
What am I supposed to be taking note of??
Dave Homewood.
How many times of the Kiwis won the World Cup ? I think that you should tell us.
John Green
You really are a scruffy, know nothing oik if you don’t know that.
Dave Homewood.
How many times of the Kiwis won the World Cup ? I think that you should tell us.
John Green
You really are a scruffy, know nothing oik if you don’t know that.
England played very poorly, and their new shirts were as rubbish as they were. Unbelieveable seeing all the numbers falling off, even the guys coming off the bench. What was with that?
England played very poorly, and their new shirts were as rubbish as they were. Unbelieveable seeing all the numbers falling off, even the guys coming off the bench. What was with that?
No, the opener was a brilliant game, both sides rose to the occasion.
We never got any adverts during the opening here in NZ, amazingly.
No, the opener was a brilliant game, both sides rose to the occasion.
We never got any adverts during the opening here in NZ, amazingly.
Given all that is being said here about what will happen and what they will end up with and how much it will cost in the long term, it makes me wonder why on earth the RAF Museum is even bothering with the project. There are surely much more worthy causes that the money could be spent on than something that will end up as a pile of corrosion. Given the ongoing discussions that continue to this day about their Halifax, which was lifted from fresh water, surely a salt water recovery will be even worse off. People are critical enough of the Halifax being conserved in its current state.
Wouldn’t they be better off lifting something from a fresh water lake, and perhaps something actually more relevant to their collection (ie RAF, like a Stirling), or just pouring those massive amount of funds into other existing projects like their Hampden? Are there no Dornier 17’s in fresh water for that matter?
Given all that is being said here about what will happen and what they will end up with and how much it will cost in the long term, it makes me wonder why on earth the RAF Museum is even bothering with the project. There are surely much more worthy causes that the money could be spent on than something that will end up as a pile of corrosion. Given the ongoing discussions that continue to this day about their Halifax, which was lifted from fresh water, surely a salt water recovery will be even worse off. People are critical enough of the Halifax being conserved in its current state.
Wouldn’t they be better off lifting something from a fresh water lake, and perhaps something actually more relevant to their collection (ie RAF, like a Stirling), or just pouring those massive amount of funds into other existing projects like their Hampden? Are there no Dornier 17’s in fresh water for that matter?
In the recent Warbird Radio interview the guys from the Vulcan team including the team leader stated the Vulcan will be grounded next year or the year after regardless of funding as the airframe is life expired.
In the recent Warbird Radio interview the guys from the Vulcan team including the team leader stated the Vulcan will be grounded next year or the year after regardless of funding as the airframe is life expired.
From a New Zealand perspective:
Too Young To Die – by Bryan Young. The story of an RNZAF Corsair pilot, best seller and hugely popular
Wings Over The Pacific – by Alex Horn. Alex was himself a Corsair pilot but in this book as well as telling his own story he also wrote about most of the other RNZAF Pacific activities from bombers to transports to flyingboats, interweaving the personal stories of other veterans he knew into a well written history. Very much recommended.
The Blue Arena – by Robert Spurdle. Bob was a Battle of Britain pilot, and flew Hurricats, before returning to NZ and fighting in the Pacific in Warhawks. Excellent autobiogaphy, hard to find though.
Into The Sun – by Claude Thompson. He was an RNZAF pilot in Singapore when it fell and he was captured, escaped and evaded and recaptured with lots of adventures along the way. Written after he returned decades later to show his wife where his wartime ordeals took place. Great book.
From Cow Bells To Bell Bottoms by Ben Heffer. The story of a New Zealander in the Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm who flew Corsairs in the British Pacific Fleet.
And a non-NZ book which is a must-read in my opinion.
You’ll Die In Singapore – by Charles McCormac. He was a Wireless Operator-Air Gunner on No. 205 Squadron Catalinas when the Japanese invaded Singapore. His battle, capture, torture, escape and evasion is really the most gripping story I have ever read. I discovered the book by accident and since I read it have leant it to many people who all agree with me. It would make a stunning film or mini-series without changing a single detail. Not much flying in the book but he was certainly an RAF airman and the story is worth a read. If you cannot find it you can read the book online, here:
From a New Zealand perspective:
Too Young To Die – by Bryan Young. The story of an RNZAF Corsair pilot, best seller and hugely popular
Wings Over The Pacific – by Alex Horn. Alex was himself a Corsair pilot but in this book as well as telling his own story he also wrote about most of the other RNZAF Pacific activities from bombers to transports to flyingboats, interweaving the personal stories of other veterans he knew into a well written history. Very much recommended.
The Blue Arena – by Robert Spurdle. Bob was a Battle of Britain pilot, and flew Hurricats, before returning to NZ and fighting in the Pacific in Warhawks. Excellent autobiogaphy, hard to find though.
Into The Sun – by Claude Thompson. He was an RNZAF pilot in Singapore when it fell and he was captured, escaped and evaded and recaptured with lots of adventures along the way. Written after he returned decades later to show his wife where his wartime ordeals took place. Great book.
From Cow Bells To Bell Bottoms by Ben Heffer. The story of a New Zealander in the Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm who flew Corsairs in the British Pacific Fleet.
And a non-NZ book which is a must-read in my opinion.
You’ll Die In Singapore – by Charles McCormac. He was a Wireless Operator-Air Gunner on No. 205 Squadron Catalinas when the Japanese invaded Singapore. His battle, capture, torture, escape and evasion is really the most gripping story I have ever read. I discovered the book by accident and since I read it have leant it to many people who all agree with me. It would make a stunning film or mini-series without changing a single detail. Not much flying in the book but he was certainly an RAF airman and the story is worth a read. If you cannot find it you can read the book online, here: