I wonder if the German Goverment might contribute to the fundrasing, considering it is their heritage being revived?
I wonder if the German Goverment might contribute to the fundrasing, considering it is their heritage being revived?
What is that green tail with 319764 on it off?
Sky high, if you’re standing a round, make mine a pint.
Lots of WWII veterans I’ve talked with called it the ‘drome by the way.
Collins Dictionary is part of HarperCollins, an Anglo-American firm. I wonder if they have winkled out Aerodrome but left in the awful Americanism, Airdrome in their dictionary?
I guess many decades ago there were men stood around tutting in an English pub about how people had begun calling motorised charabancs “coaches”, confusing them with the horsedrawn contraptions of their youth…
Thanks for that Linzee, great shots.
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If he’d have done a fictional account a la Memphis Belle, fine. As it claims to represent the actions of a real unit, sorry, I don’t agree a lazy or expotaitive script that short changes the audience and the real subject is excused. We are allowed to differ.
Wasn’t Memphis Belle depicting a real unit, and alledged to be depicting a real event (even though the entire crew names and personalities were different, as was the target and the mission, and as Robert Morgan said, if he’d had a single mission with that much trouble in it, he’d have probably died of a heart attack).
Interesting point. Richard III was a piece of pure Lancastrian propaganda
Yes, we now know he never murdered his nephews as the old story went. One grew up to become King Richard IV, and he had two sons, Harry and Edmund…. 😉
Fair comment on the workload of CGI, and I was careful to acknowledge that good CGI can be a great, accurate enhancement of a film, but too often the ‘overcrank’ expectation spoils that work.
I read last night that a lot of the amazing Mustang strafing scene in Empire of the Sun was done with CGI and models. I never realised that till now. I knew the B-29 was a model and the Zero that exploded, but they had six Mustang models and six Zero models.
As to ‘bad’ model work, a palm to 633 Squadron‘s right-hand turns in a fjord
Personally I find the script, acting and dialogue rubbish too on that film. It’s the Mosquitos alone that convinced me to purchase the DVD.
The most dreadful aspect of that film Pearl Harbor in my opinion is that before the release the makers did some publicity that talked it up as being such an important film as they were finally telling the story of what really happened (as if they’d never heard of the far better Tora, Tora, Tora and several other films on the event). And it mentioned how many of the top actors and crew had waivered their fees or taken massive pay cuts so that the money could be put into ensuring accuracy, as it was so important to them that they got it right for the veterans who were eager to see it. I think All involved should have been ‘struck off’ for gross misconduct.
I have noted a few people here and on Wix who seem to think it’s a wonderful film with great flying scenes and story. I really pity their lack of worldly experience and knowledge of history.
Fantastic model, and it’s great to see the pictures with the former crew member, Buck.
The B-17 fuselage, that was only going to be a cockpit to start with, was built and fitted out with as much equipment as I could get my hands on.
I was wondering this the other day and this seems like as good a time as any to ask – does the replica B-17 fuselage that was used for filming Memphis Belle still exist? Some years ago it was an attraction at Movieworld in Australia but a mate went there a few weeks back and when I asked about it he said he never saw it. He’s a big aviation fan too so would have noticed it.
James, you mention that Australia has never had colonies. Do you realise that originally when British settlement was established in New Zealand it was run as a colony of New South Wales, with all orders and administration coming from there? That is before the Treaty of Waitangi saw NZ set up as an independent Dominion of Great Britain. Also, this I don’t know the exact terminology for, but were Papua New Guinea, New Britain, Lord Howe Island, and Norfolk Island all under Australian administration in a colonial fashion? Whilst looking for something else entirely on papers past last night I spotted a 1930’s headline on Norfolk Island. As I am interested in the history of that place I took a look and found that the place was struggling so badly the population was dropping dramatically, and the people of the island were asking for admisitration to be taken away from Australia and passed to New Zealand. It somewhat surprised me, I never realised the depression hit them so hard, nor that they had tried to break ties with their Australian masters. It obviously never happened, and luckily for them the war came along, an airfield was put in by the kiwis, and they never looked back.
I’m surprised to read that the film has only a budget of US$30 million considering the producer is a billionaire and this story and the aim to create this film has been his passion for 20 years or more. I’m also surprised to read in that report that US$30 million is considered ‘low budget’. That would be ‘big budget’ here in our film industry.
Something that may or may not be relevant to this rather argumentative thread. This afternoon on Radio New Zealand National the film reviewer was talking about the new Planet of the Apes film. He stated he’d seen the trailer a while back and thought the CGI looked appaulling, but now that he’s seen the film itself he said they had rendered the CGI much more and he reckoned it was astoundingingly good, which surprised him. So, those who are saying that what you see in a trailer is what you’ll get may not be correct.
Hmm, reading that article has restored my faith a little, although stating that Pink Lady is/was the only flying example in Europe…?? :rolleyes:
It didn’t say that Daz, is said, “When the B-17 — the only flying one comes from France” which I take it to be referring to the only flying B-17 in the film comes from France, while the rest are CGI.
But am I right in thinking that the UK based aircraft was grounded for a season around that time with major engine troubles and insurance issues? Maybe Pink Lady was the only flying B-17 when they were there.
Are the characters in this film based on real men, is it a completely true historical account? Or is it mere fiction based on a background of a true story?
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I am really sorry to bring this issue up, and mean no offence by it, but I have been thinking about this film, and I am sure that the dialogue will include numerous uses of the infamous word ‘nigger’.
I am certainly no fan or advocate of the word or its use against anyone, however I can see the value of using it here in Red Tails because it is a historical film documenting real events as they happened, in a way that will teach the younger generations about real life brave people of the past.
In The Tuskagee Airmen, and I am sure in this new film Red Tails it will be the same, the use of the word was historically correct and accurate, and it is used liberally in a discriminatory, degrading and hurtful fashion by one group of characters against another group. It is ok for the word to be used as it is all part of the exposition of the prejudices that abounded among the bigoted white US servicemen and the service itself, and the word usage helped compell the narrative towards the black heroes overcoming the odds and succeeding despite the extra hard road these pilots had to travel.
So I wonder too, if this is ok – using the word in a historical context to ensure the whole story is told to the next generations to achieve a proper understanding of what occurred, why is it considered not ok to use the same word in a different film, Dambusters, that is being used in a totally different, comparitively harmless context. In that film the word is not being used to discriminate, degrade or hurt anyone at all. Instead it is merely the true historical name of a dog, and the true historical code word used on the raid.
We are told by the tabloid hacks that this is not ok because Hollywood won’t allow it. We are told it is not ok because the word is harmful and discriminatory even when not being used in a way meant to be harmful to anyone in particular. We are told that the American audiences will simply not stand for it.
Really? Does there have to be a racial clash on screen to make the word right for film then?
Is the censorship of history not one of the things that the brave men of the Tuskagee Squadrons and No. 617 Squadron and millions of other brave people were fighting to prevent?
Is it not a huge double standard to censor the Dambusters film and then allow the word to be used in Red Tails?
Or will Red Tails also be censored and not use the word too?