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  • in reply to: Wartime flying in Africa #1202283
    Dave Homewood
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    Coupla Ju-52/3m points.

    The South Africans had Ju52/3ms pre-war as airliners (and used them as military transports in North Africa, IIRC).

    So, there never seemed to be any issues with mistaken identity? My thoughts are that the Ju-52 from a distance even is a distinctive shape that most pilots would associate immediately with being Luftwaffe. I just wonder if there were any blue on blue incidents because of this.

    Accounts of wartime ‘sabotage’ are widely publicised; while there probably was some sabotage, and it is often difficult to detect, the lack of accidents attributed to poor maintenance and the variety of human error in these circumstances , despite the factors making this inevitable, means sabotage claims should always be regarded sceptically. Much better to believe it was sabotage than poor servicing / pilot error that brought you mate down.

    That is very true, and proving someone removed a split-pin deliberately rather than someone omitted to fit it, or someone drained fuel rather than someone didn’t top it up properly would be hard to prove indeed. Perhaps a pitot packed with grass is easier to put down to sabotage if the aeroplane gets down in one piece. There certainly were Vichy French factions all over Africa it seems, just as there were in the Pacific, trying to undermine the Allied effort. Did you realise that Vichy French members in Thailand were assisting the Japanese in their attacks on Singapore? Crazy but true, apparently. They allowed Japs to operate from their airfields.

    The Lockheed Hudson had large area extending Fowler flaps, and needed to be landed in a manner that most Commonwealth aircrew of the time found different to their training – including a wheeler landing rather than three-point. There were numerous accidents, some very significant such as the loss of some of Australia’s high command at Canberra – but most were down to pilot unfamiliarity with the type’s operating requirement – tough, but pilot error. Engine problems with the flaps extended were also very difficult to survive.

    Yes, and in these cases with all the usual problems, the particular heat of these two days diminished the lift, so they sank like stones once the aircraft were banked into the approach.

    Aeroplane ran a multi-part feature on the Takadori(sp) Run a few years ago.

    I wouldn’t mind having a read of them. I have spoken with two pilots in the past, now both deceased, who flew the route. One of them did it just once as part of his tranist from the UK to Cairo. He flew the first route as a passenger in a C-47 and was so terified by the antics of the junior pilot aboard he got off and asked if he could fly his own plane the rest of the way. So they gave him a Hurricane that had broken down at a remote Takoradi-route strip and they drove up there and fixed it and he flew it the rest of the way. From what he said and from what Trevor Howells says in his book, it must have been a real boy’s own adventure to come from little old new Zealand to suddenly be flying fighters across darkest Africa. What an experience.

    The other pilot I talked with also flew as a ferry pilot on the route and said he mostly flew Hudsons so must have been a leadship navigation plane pilot. I never knew till reading this book that they usually had one bomber and five fighters per convoy, and the fighters had large temporary numbers of 1 through to 5 painted on them so they knew their place.

    Trevor wrote that a new Spitfire just out of the factory would be worth 5000 Pounds Sterling, and by the time it was transported by ship to Takoradi, assembled, test flown and ferried across the route to Cairo, it was worth 25,000 Pounds Sterling, that is how much the Government had paid to get it there, 20 grand! He notes the fuel prices at most fuel stops and they are none less than a pound per gallon, some more, because to get the fuel to those remote places it had to be transported by camel train in four gallon tins. I think we forget the logistics behind supplying a war sometimes and reading this book has been a bit of an eye-opener to this. Those ferry pilots were certainly unsung heroes.

    in reply to: Wartime flying in Africa #1202312
    Dave Homewood
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    Thanks for that info longshot.

    Now that I am further into the book I see the author has mentioned the routes further and the aircraft on them, including a disaster as two BOAC Hudsons crashed at Khartoum just days apart in the same circumstances, put down to the heat and the fowler flaps causing them to drop from the sky while turning in the circuit. Onboard each were nine members of his unit being transported back to Takoradi, so in a matter of less than two weeks they lost 18 of their unit in two accidents. He describes other crashes while ferrying fighters too. It’s amazing to think these guys had perhaps the safest jobs as fighter pilots in the war yet still incurred numerous casualties.

    Another area he describes is the sabotage that the Vichy French infiltrators used to do to their aeroplanes. it was common for them to tamper with fuel tanks (draining fuel from the droptanks which don’t have guages so they didn’t make it to the desitnation, and in his case once removing a split-pin so the tank dropped off the back attachment on take off, scraped along the runway and burst spreading fuel all over. It didn’t ignite luckliy.) Also they used to put grass up the ASI pitot so the pilot had no way to see his speed on the tak-off run and more critically the landing. And one unusual piece of sabotage he witnessed was they came out to their aircraft in the morning to find one of them had the end of its propellor missing, and evidential teeth marks to deduce it was bitten off by an adult lion during the night!!

    in reply to: Wartime flying in Africa #1203655
    Dave Homewood
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    The routes would have been fairly far away from the combat zone but logic tells you that at some of the RAF stations and airfields along the way there may well have been a new, green young pilot or gunner who saw one and mistook it for a German paratroop aircraft I guess.

    Howells mentions in the book that certain African cities were run by the Vichy French, and they had to avoid them because they’d shoot at the aircraft they were ferrying. It lead me to also wonder about places that had Vichy and Nazi sympathisers or were perhaps neutral, did the Germans or Italians also have supply lines across Africa in the same way as the RAF had the Takoradi to Cairo route? Or did German pilots and soldiers use some of the airlines operating freely in the continent too? If the airlines only carried Allies (being British, US and Belgian airlines mentioned) were they open to attack from the Axis for being part of the Allied supply route?

    in reply to: Wartime flying in Africa #1204281
    Dave Homewood
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    Thanks for that, an interesting type by the look of things.

    in reply to: Why Dakota? (The origin of aircraft names in general now) #1206094
    Dave Homewood
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    Hampden was, in the 1932 system, a Night Bomber so was an Inland town in the British Empire. (It’s in New Zealand)

    Interesting. I had never heard of a town called Hampden in New Zealand, so I looked it up. It seems it is on the Otago coast, in the South Island. I suspect I’ve been through it but it’ll be one of those places that if you blink, you miss it. I highly suspect that the use of the word ‘town’ is debatable, more like a large village.

    It’s not “inland” by the way. Google Image it and you get several photos of their beach with the famous Moeraki Boulders on it (they’re sperical rocks)
    http://www.moerakiboulders.com/.

    Hampden seems to be so tiny it hasn’t even got a Wikipedia page. Now I’m very curious as to what possessed Handley Page to pick that tiny place as their namesake? Perhaps one of their team had come from there?

    in reply to: Why Dakota? (The origin of aircraft names in general now) #1206870
    Dave Homewood
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    This article might be of interest as it has a little about the names of the Dakota

    http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1943/1943%20-%200896.html?search=Dakota

    in reply to: Just whose side are you on? #1207662
    Dave Homewood
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    The unit that Trevor Howells was flying with and refers to was No. 1 Aircraft Delivery Unit, based at Takoradi. Feel free to look up their records and see if it’s true. I cannot see any reason why he’d make it up.

    in reply to: Why Dakota? (The origin of aircraft names in general now) #1208593
    Dave Homewood
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    Re the naming of the Mustang, it would seem likely the British named the aeroplane from the outset since it was their project, commissioned by them and designed for them, I’d think (without any evidence). Perhaps the name was given by North American but only as part of the British requirements?

    Well Commonwealth locations were used – Bristol Bombay (India) Handley Page Hiandi & Hydrabad (India) postwar the EE Canberra (I think there was angling for a sale, too…)

    Named after the town in Somerset …… or Shropshire …… named, like all British bombers of that era, such as the Wellesley …… after UK (or Empire!) towns and cities.

    So they picked an unheard of town in Somerset over a great capital of the world? No wonder the RNZAF told the Poms to keep them. :):p

    Seriously I’d be more inclined to go with James’s theory that it was named after our Wellington in an angle to get the sales as they knew New Zealand were looking for a medium coastal bomber. We did buy them but in August 1939 gave them to the Home Country for the impending war and what became No. 75 (NZ) Squadron was formed.

    James when you talk of Commonwealth, do you mean the Empire. or was the Commonwealth something different back then?

    No the lodestar was part of Lockheed’s ‘starts and constellations’ – Electra (three times!) Vega, Lodestar, Constellation (Constitution a bit of a twist…) Saturn, Tristar and Jetstar.

    Ah of course, I was getting myself confused with the woord motherlode which is geological (a word most people sell wrong).

    Hudson and Ventura were RAF, after the Bombers = locations, American bombers = American locations and I wonder of some of the confusion is US Naval names – Harpoon, a US name, and not Lockheed’s or RAF’s?

    I wonder where Harpoon came from because the only two users were the RNZAF (who got four and sent them straight back as the war was almost over) and the US Navy who called them PV-2’s.

    in reply to: Why Dakota? (The origin of aircraft names in general now) #1208791
    Dave Homewood
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    The US bombers were named after cities and places, in line with the existing RAF’s policy of Empire names and places

    Does this mean that the Vickers Wellington might have been named after the capital of New Zealand? I’d always assumed it was after the Duke.

    This is an interesting thread. I always thought the Hudson was named after Sherlock Holmes’ housekeeper. 🙂

    The Lockheed twins’ names don’t seem to have a consistency, Hudson, Ventura (a county in California isn’t it?); Lodestar (a geological feature) and Harpoon (an anti-whale weapon).

    in reply to: Napier Sabre list? #1235473
    Dave Homewood
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    I wonder what will happen with the ownership of the Nelson one on display at the World of Wearable Art Museum now that Richard Shuttleworth has passed away. I hope it will stay in New Zealand.

    in reply to: WW2 BBC Recordings? #1238616
    Dave Homewood
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    The BBC has a database of all surviving material which they can do a quick check on when enquiries are made. The best way to find out if something exists is to ask on this forum, which has many BBC employees who care about their heritage and will readily help:
    http://missingepisodes.proboards20.com/

    in reply to: WW2 BBC Recordings? #1160747
    Dave Homewood
    Participant

    Bolyman, perhaps not specifically what you’re hoping for but this link has many downloadable BBC and US radio broadcasts from the war, as well as lots of period music.
    http://www.stelzriede.com/ms/html/sub/mshws.htm

    in reply to: Spitfire Tr.9 landing accident in New Zealand, 15/1/09 #1161022
    Dave Homewood
    Participant

    Fair enough, it’s just you made a rather sweeping statement about Spitfire accidents in NZ and I thought I would fill in the facts for those who don’t know them in case they thought they happened twice a year.

    in reply to: Spitfire Tr.9 landing accident in New Zealand, 15/1/09 #1161406
    Dave Homewood
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    Sir Tim Wallis had three Spitfire accidents

    29 Jan 1989 – TB863 – Waipukarau (repaired by SAFE Air)

    18 Nov 1992- TB863 – at RNZAF Base Woodbourne (repaired by SAFE Air)

    2 Jan 1996 – NH799 – Luggate, Wanaka (under repair at AvSpecs)

    in reply to: Spitfire Tr.9 landing accident in New Zealand, 15/1/09 #1161521
    Dave Homewood
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    NZ based Spits seem to have a propensity for effecting alternative landing styles. Combine that with the TR9’s (look Mum no wheels) landing techique and you could almost say it was only s matter of time.

    NZ has had four Spitfire accidents in 20 years of the type operating in this country, but all have thankfully been non-fatal which must be a better record than the UK has for the past 20 years?

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