Dave,
Your NZ replica will not be totally GRP. It will be built up on a wooden or steel armature.
Indeed, as I mentioned the Central Institute of Technology designed the metal framework
The BoB replicas were constructed using a plywood armature and clad in full GRP skinning using a plaster mould generated from a full size original donor, in this case Mk V BM597.
Cheers.
TE288 will not be on the data plates…only the constructor’s number
Ah yes. Well I’m sure they have it on some paerwork in the archive or somewhere…
Unfortunately the Air Force Museum at Wigram do not have the manpower available to paint either the correct RAF serial, TE288, or the alias serial, ‘TB625’, appropriate to its current markings OU-V ‘Rongotea’. :rolleyes: This despite the offer of a cut full size military stencil.
It’s probably not a manpower thing, rather a prority thing. It is a shame but 99.9% of the public would never notice nor would they care. I used to visit there almost every weekend for nearly three years and never noticed, and I was in the painting trade! it was only on this forum i learned the serial was missing.
This is all doubly confusing as NZ has two GRP replicas, both, as I understand it, painted as ‘TE288’. 🙂
No, now there are three! Harewood, Hamilton and Westgate mall’s examples all carry that serial 🙂
I did wonder about that film when I read the article, hence asking. I couldn’t recall if the Spitfires were GRP or wooden – they burned like wood but then the burning ones may have been.
Disregarding film props, was this the first GRP one built to go on a pole as a gate guard?
Of course it’s TE288, it’s on the data plates (I assume…) Oh well, the number is on all its replicas!
Thanks for that.
I was aware of the Wing Commander thing, I simply worded it badly, sorry. Most of the best known examples were aircraft flown by aces is all i meant.
But was Deere’s the only one with a first name rather than initials?
Clive Caldwell and Bobbie Gibbs both had personal aircraft serials.
Yes, as did many aces and top officers, such as D-B for Douglas Bader, J-EJ for Johnny Hohnson, J-MC for Johnny Checkets, D-S for Des Scott, etc.
The question was their first name, ie their christian name, written on the plane. I doubt that CLIVE or BOBBIE were their codes, were they? 🙂
AL must be almsot unique as a code being the pilot’s first name I’d think.
Did any other pilots get to put their first name on their aircraft as their code letters like Al did?
Steve (RAFRochford),
Were you sitting on a parachute in those aircraft though? That would elevate a person a six inches or so I’d think.
which serial no?
Isn’t it legally dangerous wanting to know the serial of a Greek aircraft?
Interesting stuff, thanks Ross and Adrian
Pacific Wings magazine from February 2007 notes that DC-6B c/n 43128, which was highly significant in NZ aviation history having served with British Commonwealth Pacific Airways (an ANZUK airline), then with TEAL (which became Air new Zealand) and then with the RNZAF, was recently broken up at Chandler, Arizona. Only the cockpit exists now.
That’s a great shame indeed, a hugely significant plane to our history, lost.
Does anyone know if the other two ex-BCPA/TEAL/RNZAF DC-6’s are still around?
Sgt Trevor Ganley, an RNZAF Air Gunner in a Hudson, had a remarkble set of events that he survived.
On patrol, the solo Hudson was attacked over the sea in the Pacific by eight Zero’s. The pilot struggled to evade them, and though hit by bullets from one of the attacks, Ganley managed to shoot down one of them. The aircraft however was doomed, and pilot Flt Lt Allison made a perfect water landing. All the five crew and their passenger escaped the sinking aircraft, only to have these Zeros continue their attack and strafe them in the water.
Of the six of them, only Ganley survived the strafing. Everyone else was killed. He was now in the water with his dead crew, a sinking aircraft and no raft. He was then forced to swim two miles through the sea, with wounds (he had a seriously injured middle finger an shrapnel had struck him in the hip and splinters hit him in the forehead).
On reaching land, he spent a few days before being discovered by a coast watcher, whom he stayed with for a month in hiding before being picked up by a PT Boat from the US Navy and returned to base.
Sgt Ganley returned to base 37 days after the crash.
He was from my home town of Cambridge, NZ. You can read more detail of this story on my website here
http://www.cambridgeairforce.org.nz/Trevor%20Ganley.htm
An Anson Mk I of No, 206 Squadron was shot down after a dogfight with a Heinkel He115 seaplane off Heligoland on the 5th of Feb 1939, one of the earliest aerial combats of the war. The Anson’s NZ pilot, Lawrence Edwards, was the only survivor though badly burned and made a POW. Bill Reid’s Anson Mk 1 that’s being restored at Wakefield and should be in NZ skkies very soon is to wear that aircraft’s colours.
Another interesting air to air combat was a No. 3 (GR) Sqn RNZAF Hudson which crept up behind a Japanese Pete floatplane and managed to surprise the crew. The Hudson pilot F/O M.W. McCormack used his forward firing machine gun to shoot it down.
If I recall rightly, Leonard Trent VC shot down a Bf109 with his forward firing gun of his 487 (NZ) Sqn Ventura during his ill fated raid on Holland that saw him shot down and become a POW.
I’m not sure that the trophy was handed to No. 25 Squadron for good in 1936, as a logbook I am going through has the pilot flying in the competition on the 20th and 21st of October 1938, in Hurricane L1585.
The first days is noted as “Sassoon Fighter Attack” and the second day is “Sassoon Trophy”.
On the 22nd of October he has written ‘Formation’. I don’t know if this is part of the trophy or his regular formation work. He was a member of the three-man No. 73 Squadron display team. His name was Dereck ‘Bill’ Kain.
Well said Tom. I agree fully.
Nice photos on that site.
What’s suspended below the B-25 camera ship on this page?
http://www.tardis.myzen.co.uk/Aeropix/The%20Movies.html
Is it a camera in that contraption?