I stand corrected Andy. Apologies to GA for my ‘naughty’;)
Very scary indeed. Wasn’t it some of Southwest’s aircraft that were found to have skin cracks not too long ago? I really could be wrong here, if so, someone please put me right.
Get them pushing trollies at asda. See if then they would like it.
I have to agree with that comment. As I said in an earlier post, I have a very well educated nephew with a great personality, who for many months now has been a night shelf stacker at our local Tesco, because thats all there is round here. What that guy wouldn’t give for a job of the calibre of a BA C/C.
I don’t intend posting anymore on this particular discussion. My final comment is that irrespective of the grievances that those CCs think that they have, they still have jobs, and bloody good ones at that, a very great number of willing and well educated people do not. They, as I do, look on with incredulity at the antics of these BA staff members. No one is making these potential strikers do these jobs, there are no guns at their heads. In the present economic climate, this kind of squabbling and downright selfishness is a luxury and a slap in the face of those who would give their right arms for jobs such as these. The job obviously does not seem to suit some of the CCs anymore, so they should stop torturing themselves and move on to pastures new. I’m sure the jobless would thank them for it, and so would I.
No disrespect was meant, I genuinely did see great irony in it.
My brother died at more or less the same age, a salutary reminder to me never to waste a day of the life one has left, nobody guarantees you will live into your eighties, even if the probability is that you will.
Moggy
Yes, it does make you think:(
No disrespect was meant, I genuinely did see great irony in it.
My brother died at more or less the same age, a salutary reminder to me never to waste a day of the life one has left, nobody guarantees you will live into your eighties, even if the probability is that you will.
Moggy
Yes, it does make you think:(
The usual good quality pics! Especially the KLM retrojet.
My feeling is that the anti-EU rhetoric from Ryanair on this one might not work – I think many of their pax would pay £1.76 extra if Ryanair genuinely look after them when the wheels fall off the wagon (but will they genuinely do it now they’re openly charging for it, or will they still wriggle as much as they can to get out of paying – I suspect the latter,).
Andy
I can’t believe you are either;) At the end of the day, MoL has made no secret of the fact that he wanted to create a bus service in the sky. To a very large extent he has done so. And as bus and train operators don’t feed you when the service is delayed or cancelled, don’t put you up in hotels when the vehicle breaks down and in general don’t give a fiddlers naughty for your welfare, then, (oh gawd, this next piece is so difficult for me to type), then why should he?. As others have often stated on here, we all have a choice, I just get sick of hearing people bleating when the ‘cheap’ choice doesn’t turn out to be quite what they expected. Don’t use ’em……I don’t!
Now, interestingly I happen to attend a business development workshop in Kent yesterday, and the keynote speaker delivered a lecture about Apple, the company that does all things iPod, iPhone, etc., and through this lecture I/we learnt about Apple’s infamously secret corporate culture, and one of the main things that Apple apparently makes an huge emphasis on is this…
“Do not tell your staff what to do, instead make them better at doing what they do!”
I can’t help but feel/think that maybe BA needs a bit of an internal culture change and that it should really look to adopt this and many of the other principles that Apple has applied to itself (I’m not going to list them all, as I had to pay for the event!), and hopefully this will begin to help restore the relationship between the staff and management, but they really need to do it pretty quickly before its too late.
Now, before anyone comes on here and poo-poo’s this idea, I’d like to remind you that Apple is one of the fastest growing and well respected companies around, and also one of the most desired companies that people want to work for, and they say that their success comes down to the people that work for them.
An interesting piece of information, and as you imply, its a philosophy that would appear to work for Apple, and might possibly for BA. But how would that philosophy work when it comes up against the ideology and seeming intransigence of the unions involved?. Such a philosophy would require genuine co-operation and good will on all sides. Sadly, in the main, I think we are a long way from that scenario in this dispute.
Very nice pics. Especially like the Cimber and the Egyptair
Thanks for the info Kevin. You seem very well up on the intricacies of this dispute and I’ve learnt more about the situation from you. Could it be that the CCs at LGW, along with their union(s) could actually see what was coming? The thing that I really don’t get, is why the CCs, and their union(s) at LHR can’t, or won’t.
The CCs involved here are not being made to do their job with a gun pointed at their heads, neither are the rest of us I hope. Sorry, but in these times, and with so very many people, that would be suitable candidates for these jobs out of work, I have to ask the CCs this, if they don’t want to do the job, or if the pay and conditions no longer suit them, then why not get off the planes and make way for the great number of people, who would be only too happy to take their place. Just ask my very well educated 19yr old nephew, who finished higher education last summer, yes he is still having to stack shelves at his local Tesco on permanent nights, because its all he can get, poor sod!
Its not about economics its a power battle, the Unions want to Run BA like they have in the past ,pure and simply and the BA Management aren’t going to let them
I disagree. It is too simplistic to exclude economics from the argument. As far as BA is concerned, it is very much a case of economics, and of their struggle to adapt to the new playing field. It may very well be simply a power battle on the part of the unions ‘Politburo’ but in the end that won’t matter. These members need BA more than BA needs them, fact. In the good ‘ol days, when BA was a state owned behemoth, economics was a dirty word and being fired was virtually unheard of, in that cosy world of ‘jobs for life’. Most of us out here have had to change our attitudes and aspirations in terms of our careers, we may not like it, but there it is. Now, the Union leaders appear to be unable (or unwilling) to come to terms with the current state of industrial relations, so be it, but surely some of the membership can see where this is all heading. I have been a committed Socialist for near on 35 years, and have myself been involved in industrial action back in the mid 80s, but I can see the writing on the wall for these potential strikers, and so can most of us out here if we’re honest. I’m quite prepared to be labelled an apologist for BA and Mr. Walsh, and if that is what my post implies, then I’ll have to be guilty as charged, although I will still think it a little unfair! There are an awful lot of unemployed young, willing and educated people out there. I think that the question that these potential strikers should be asking themselves, is wether they are prepared to drive their employer into the arms of cheap labour, and thereby the practices that go with it, by their refusal to see things as they really are. And would that scenario in the end, not be down to economics?
I can’t believe we’re hear again either, but since we are. I really cannot believe that this dispute has still not been resolved. Certainly since the last time I posted, the overall economic situation in the country has got worse, despite the propaganda peddled by “The Ministry of Truth” this is irrefutable. Yet against this background, people are still prepared to countenance industrial action.
I honestly, and without malice aforethought, would like someone better informed than I, to please illustrate the justification, and the motivation behind, the actions of the individuals pushing for possible industrial action. My own opinion is that for some reason, the union leaders and its members still appear to be blind to todays economic reality. I know I’ve mentioned this before, but I just don’t get it. I find it incredible that these union leaders and their members, who must, like the rest of us, see and hear almost on a daily basis about the seemingly constant stream of redundancies and company closures, can even consider industrial action at this time.
That retrojet is stunning! Thank you Aer Lingus…..and thank you Sf, for posting it.;)
Darren. WoW you can certainly make some greyt photos from a grey day !! I rather think a certain 62M fellow is going to get a little moist any time soon 😉
Thank you …… Keith.
Yep! I is wringing…………..;)
Very nice shots Darren, especially, aw you tell him Keith:)
Very nice shots Maikel…as usual:)