Re: My 1st XI
Sorry about the time delay, was waiting to see if Moggy was switched on 😀
OK, the eleven listed below were the first alphabetical entries in Kenneth Wynn’s book “A Clasp For The Few”” detailing the 129 Kiwis (both RAF and RNZAF) that qualified for the Battle of Britain Clasp.
I have included a very brief bio from the book.
Allen J H L – Fg Off 151 Sqn, MiA 12th July 1940.
Andrews M R – Sgt (AG) 264 Sqn.
Baird G M – Plt Off 248 Sqn.
Bary R E – Plt Off 229 Sqn, KiA 17th April 1945.
Bayly J – Sgt 111 Sqn.
Bennison A – Sgt (AG) 25 Sqn.
Bickerdike J L – Plt Off 85 Sqn, KiFA 22nd July 1940.
Blake M V – Flt Lt 238 & 234 Sqn, PoW 19th August 1942.
Brennan J S – Sgt (AG) 23 Sqn, KiFA 21st August 1940.
Brinsden F N – Fg Off 19 Sqn.
Brookman R W – Sgt (O) 235 Sqn, MiA 22nd February 1943.
First time I saw a RNZAF Hastings C.3 airborne was from Wellington airport. I was about 12 at the time, standing on the Miramar Peninsula hill and was amazed at the apparent lack of climb. Home to check the 56-56 Janes AWA and yep, there it was; initial climb rate of (from memory) 950 ft/min. Oh how I grew to love hearing them full throttle as they departed Wellington.
On their retirement, they were flown to Ohakea, amazing as Whenuapai was the home base. One was donated to MoTaT – BUT – they had a small time from to remove it, resulting in the flight deck and an inner engine c/w undercart only being saved.
Like the scrapping of Sunderland NZ4113 at Hobsonville in the ’70’s, that will always leave a sour taste when the RNZAF and preservation is mentioned in the same sentence..
wELL DONE THAT MAN
OFCS
Or to put a question another way..
On completition, what percentage of the airframe will be original?
I think from memory the AFC’s Hurricane is 95% new, for example.
Just like Grandad’s proverbial axe..
Paint all three anti-flash white!! :diablo:
Y E A H !!!!!!!!!!!!!
How long has it been since all three were seen together in that scheme – right at the height of the Cold War.
OK Mogmiester
Back on topic.
Here’s my 1st XI:
Allen J H L
Andrews M R
Baird G M
Bary R E
Bayly J
Bennison A
Bickerdike J L
Blake M V
Brennan J S
Brinsden F N
Brookman R W
Question for you.
What is the connection with the above named?
AD251
Named: WILLENHALL Totals: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged.
1941: Sqn Ldr A C Deere. 9th August; 3 Bf.109F’s destroyed. 13th October; Bf.109F damaged.
Go the Poms
Sorry Setter 😀 😀
Umm.
As far as I am aware, Fred has died but I’m blowed if I can find a reference.
I’ll dig around and see what I can come up with and references.
(Signed) Embarrased person who calls himself a Kiwi,,
Oh man
Words cannot express what most of us are feeling for you and your family, Dan.
One day after another and I know the hurt.
Tony
Did the DH Vampire have a nickname?
?
Aerial Kiddycar
Spider Crab was its original (code?) name
Moggy.
To me they are all deserving of recognition.
Regards,
kev35
Thanks to Key Publishing hosting this web site – we are recognising every man jack in one way or another, air and ground crews alike.
Which reminds me – when the B737 first came out it was known as the SLUF.
Here is an interesting point regarding “Aces”.
My College Engineering Tutor (during the 60’s) was an ex-RAF pilot called Dave Rockell. He was a Flt Lt with 6 Sqn on Hurricanes.
During a conversation I mentioned one of the names listed in this thread and showed him the magazine articel I had read. Dave was vociferous in his condemnation of this person, and stated that he shot down more clouds than any other Allied Pilot.
This came as a complete surprise as we had numerous discussions on pilots and things Air Force during the years that I knew him and this was the only time that he denigrated someone.
I have thought long and hard before posting this, even touching base with Moggy. I have not posted this as a put-down to this person (who is no longer with us, neither is Dave for that matter) but just to show that there are two sides to any discussion.
Regardless, it must be remembered that all aircrew volunteered, some making aces and/or hero status, some surviving the war, many falling in the line of duty, most suffering effects from the conflict.
I respect them all, the good and the bad – from all sides.