Or PM the guys who uploaded the vids and they can probably just email the vids to ya or something….

But I doubt, like you, that Brazil will suddenly splurge on lots of new fighters. No threat which would justify a big increase in spending, for a start. It’s only the reason for their parsimony I dispute.

I looked at Gripen International’s sales prospect document (from this month) and they anticipate a restart of the fighter competition after the presidential elections. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking or their contacts with Brazil gave them this indication.

The election is in October, with a possible run-off between two candidates
to follow.

Side note: Gripen also raised its overall export prospects (vision) over the next 10-year period to sell 200 new jets starting from today. The production line will also be open longer even as the South African order is filled, due to the order of 31 new C/D jets by the Swedish military. (using some parts from surplus A/B, but with new wings/avionics etc)

I think Rafale still have export opportunities and with experiences from the past, it does usually take a few 5-10 years to get any orders after jets in the native airforce has settled in. I don’t see much of a market in Europe or other western type nations but there’s a lot of countries out there who need upgrades, maybe not 100 jets but 10-20 a pop, countries that might not want/can deal with the US/UK/Sweden and have better ties to France. You know the ones.

Ya. I especeally like Euro thingy. Sure, they presented so great airframes, so superior to both Mig-29 and Sukhoi… And Euro avionic and radars are so much better than these of Mig-29 and Sukhoi… ya-ya.

oh sarcasm. Well,

There has been no recent flight of any new generation prototype jet in Russia.

All the Su-27/30 jets stem from the T-10 project which first flew in May 1977. Not to even mention the mig-29 family with radar images the size of a school bus.

USA, France, Sweden and the Eurofighter consortium have all in recent years rolled out real new generation jets.

Russia officially stated last month they plan to fly a first prototype using a current engine design by 2008. Operational introduction of this mystery jet can clearly not happen before 2018 at the soonest.

Sure it’s unpopular what I say among some people, but this is just the reality.
The current ones work fairly well and in some cases exceeed the performance of western old generation but can not seriously match what is now becoming operational in the US/Europe.

And sure, this mig is nice for airshows that I will say.

Well atleast the European leaders make a conserted effort to do so collectivly , look at the US the 2 leaderships never or rarely on the same side when it comes to export of defence equipment be it clearence for F-35 for UK and other partners or export of B52’s and F-16’s to pakistan .

That’s true.

Ok this news, it would seem that the Saudi Prince over the last year have been very busy in signing new defense deals with European (and also Pakistan) countries. The news doesn’t say he actually ordered anything so I suppose this is a MoU and way to positioning Saudi Arabia in a way that they can more rapidly end procurement processes.

It was a bit overshadowed in the news last year but 1 week before he went to the UK and signed a MoU on Eurofighters he spent some time in Sweden and got a MoU there on deeper defense contacts. Plus a full display of air surveillance products, air command, Gripen jet etc.

So it would seem he got Saudi Arabia set up now: USA, UK, France, Sweden.
What else could he ask for…

Heh Jacques Chirac have personally tried to sell Rafale in the past to other countries too… how many plane manufacturers can hope for that support from a leader?

Well in this business nothing is decided until the jets have been delivered, not even an order can mean it’s a done deal… so anything can happen 🙂

From my understanding Greece is to issue two purchase orders for new jets.

One (this one) to replace about 30-40 crashed or outdated jets. (imminent)
And one to add new air superiority fighters (decision 2008)

In the second one even JSF is to compete. Earlier used F-16 jets were under consideration for the first procurement.

What speaks against Eurofighter in the first procurement is the time table to delivery, and this speaks for the Gripen which Saab is being ‘donated’ 40 surplus jets from the Swe Airforce that can be sold and adapted to NATO with the same equipment as installed on Czech and Hungarian NATO Gripen’s.

OR they will forget used jets totally and then it’s a different story again. But again, from my understanding based on news from the many visits by Greek delegations to Sweden in the last 6 months, this order is for a imminent need to replace crashed and really old jets.