Dont acquire, the sonar is terrible… (at least earlier versions)
Otherwise ppl would talk about late 50ies Griffon…
LookJSR, first the biggest leap of SU 35 ober SU 27 isnt 3D, but avionics. Would it be a sensible choice for Brazil on purely operational considerations? Probably. Mostly depending on operational costs and real PESA radar capabilities (not in terms of sheer power). But not on industrial and ToT terms.
Citing huge wing pods is a bit childish as none of us has any clue of real performance of EW suites.
And afaik, SU 35 wont have -by far- 70% of wet surface made of composites (as an example).
Even Sergei Bogdan quotes the extreme agility of Rafale btw (he had a flight in it, did you know?)
Little gift to you from PS 13 btw. Guess who it is?
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NH90 is a gen leap to other types.
Su-35 is not derivative just like F-18E is not derivative of F-18A.
Su35 IS a derivative, and extensively uses Ti alloys (allows it to be relatively lighter), but still has a huge RCS.
Any insights aboit considered future types?
Including 100 or A2G where stealth isnt needed for a while now.
It was a joke referring to rafale thread msphere…
If you say so… btw Su35 engines smoke!
out of topic, but cant find the thread about B2 stealth making of, can anyone help? Ty.
As an ex para (and still reservist) i’ll tell you do yourself what i’m thinking about.
Although i regret these administrative changes, i cant help educating you
Normandy Landings[edit]
By the time of the Normandy Invasion, the Free French forces numbered more than 400,000 strong.[citation needed] 900 Free French paratroopers landed as part of the British Special Air Service (SAS) Brigade; the Free French 2nd Armored Division—under General Leclerc—landed at Utah Beach in Normandy on 1 August 1944, and eventually led the drive toward Paris, while the divisions which had been fighting in Italy became part of the French First Army—under General Jean de Lattre de Tassigny—and joined the U.S. 7th Army in Operation Dragoon. This operation was the Allied invasion of southern France. The Allied forces advanced up the line of the Rhône River to liberate the Vosges and southern Alsace.
(wikipedia)
Oh and btw about Mers el Kebir, from English version….
Before negotiations were formally terminated, British Fairey Swordfish planes escorted by obsolete Blackburn Skuas were dispatched from the Ark Royal to drop magnetic mines in the path of the French ships’ route to sea. This force was intercepted by French Curtiss H-75 fighters. One of the Skuas was shot down by French fighters and crashed into the sea, killing its two-man crew, the only British fatalities in the action.[9]
A short while later, on Churchill’s instructions, the British ships opened fire against the French.[6] The British opened fire at extreme range on 3 July 1940 at 17:54.[10][11] The French eventually replied but ineffectively. The third salvo from the British force and the first to hit resulted in a magazine explosion aboard Bretagne, which sank with 977 of her crew dead at 18:09. After some thirty salvos, the French ships stopped firing. Meanwhile, the British force altered their course to avoid fire from the French coastal forts. Provence, Dunkerque and the destroyer Mogador were damaged and run aground by their crews.
As an ex para (and still reservist) i’ll tell you do yourself what i’m thinking about.
Although i regret these administrative changes, i cant help educating you
Normandy Landings[edit]
By the time of the Normandy Invasion, the Free French forces numbered more than 400,000 strong.[citation needed] 900 Free French paratroopers landed as part of the British Special Air Service (SAS) Brigade; the Free French 2nd Armored Division—under General Leclerc—landed at Utah Beach in Normandy on 1 August 1944, and eventually led the drive toward Paris, while the divisions which had been fighting in Italy became part of the French First Army—under General Jean de Lattre de Tassigny—and joined the U.S. 7th Army in Operation Dragoon. This operation was the Allied invasion of southern France. The Allied forces advanced up the line of the Rhône River to liberate the Vosges and southern Alsace.
(wikipedia)
Oh and btw about Mers el Kebir, from English version….
Before negotiations were formally terminated, British Fairey Swordfish planes escorted by obsolete Blackburn Skuas were dispatched from the Ark Royal to drop magnetic mines in the path of the French ships’ route to sea. This force was intercepted by French Curtiss H-75 fighters. One of the Skuas was shot down by French fighters and crashed into the sea, killing its two-man crew, the only British fatalities in the action.[9]
A short while later, on Churchill’s instructions, the British ships opened fire against the French.[6] The British opened fire at extreme range on 3 July 1940 at 17:54.[10][11] The French eventually replied but ineffectively. The third salvo from the British force and the first to hit resulted in a magazine explosion aboard Bretagne, which sank with 977 of her crew dead at 18:09. After some thirty salvos, the French ships stopped firing. Meanwhile, the British force altered their course to avoid fire from the French coastal forts. Provence, Dunkerque and the destroyer Mogador were damaged and run aground by their crews.
Su-35 can stay twice longer than Rafale/Gripen per sortie. which is more efficient than flying tankers/ETs. Brazil large country with limited airforce.
Su-35 radar can also see further than Brazilian air survellence sytem. Only downside is Embarer is assembler of western components. so not much it can do with Sukhoi parntership.
Really twice more? Rafale has done a 10 hrs 40 min mission in Mali and is given for 12 hours (oil limit)….
And certainly S35 can see far away. But we do not know whith which sensibility. And it has the RCS of an AEGIS destroyer…
Probably F35 for operational commonqlity with Netherlands, otherwise Rafales for commonality with France.