Per defintion, Alpha is when you are still…in flight. Super maneuverability refers to post stall maneuvering, a domain where wings doesn’t provide any lift… hence where there is no Alpha
Revise, but nvm. Used to your knowless rantins. alpha is the difference between you velocity vector and your “noise pointing”. Being able to recover is irrelevant (what was just pointed slightly above when i reminded that a Rafale as measured at 120° alpha -20 Kts during FCStests)
The allusion about car industries is quite funny considering the difference in industry levels between USA andEU.
That’s one of the problems of F-35 its been designed like an i-F-35, in order to operate in a very closes ecosystem.
i do not know if SAAB or Rafale or whatever, but finnish market look much more open eyed than other recent ones.
The very definition of super manoeuvrabiloity is that you can still control the plane after stall. The only problem is that if you do so you lose so much energy that after you stand as a sitting duck.Always that evergy factor…. The typical answer to this type of manoeuver is full power pull the stick. Of course, there is nothing such as a perfect move in BFM.
5th generation fighters are a very big step forward comparing with legacy fighters, as big step as Me-262 was comparing it with piston fighters. I see it like this. Of course, i talk about real 5 th generation, a real VLO, not LO like SH, or EF.
And i take it for what it is : assessment without any argumentation.
Advantages are not overset by alpha. This is PR to promote F-35 which has otherwise medium quality of flying. High alpha makes you point towards a very different vector from your velocity vector and therefore make of you a sitting duck.
Of course this is extreme flying, i just posted it for pleasure. But you do know that some “tator” (rafale demo pilot) claimed to be regularly above 10g during square turn don’t you? I’m sure you remember it.
I don’t follow Rafale developement process, so to be honest, i don’t know how accurate your depiction of Rafale is, but i don’t think that translate to the same level of expertise on F-35 or Su-57.
From the perspective of a third party, i can’t help but feeling suspicious of his claims because Dassaults can’t know the characteristics of F-35’s RAM or RAS, and it doesn’t make sense for F-35 to be only as stealthy as Rafale when looked up from below. In my opinion, that is as ridiculous as USA fanboy who say Su-57 equally stealthy as F-18SH. Logically, a stealth aircraft with strike as its main mission must be very stealthy when viewed from below. That is already consider the best case scenario that he isn’t a stolen valor
i didnot say rafale rcs was similar to f-35. And yes, my informations about F-35 and Su57are much less complete. His claims were just that these bumps are very unfavorable to stealthiness and “compare it to X-35”.
That’s why you have Alpha. And no, it’s not a Marvel action hero.
We have also shown before in those pages* that the G limit in the HUD is 10 beyond what the G meter freeze. Either it is the manifestation of a FBW limitation (would seem logical) either the HUD symbol can’t be incremented beyond that number (not logical). So way above would logically be… 10. Something already a pain to watch.
In this video, I haven’t seen the G limit pass 9.8
The Alpha also is capped around 25 in this demo
There is also l’Effet boîte à Meuh manifesting itself during rolls excursion.
The AoA indicator (gear down) showing up at 30deg
The fuel fraction is minimal with a low fuel indication popping up at the third of the video and Bingo status at two-third.*Thanks to a video that was posted of a pilot demonstrating the high G 360 turn in front of the aircraft carrier CdG.
Hilarious when comparing to F-35 demo, which last only half of the time of Rafale demo… Abiyt 10g+ during demo, it is wel documented from the cvery pilots that do it….
Keep praying your Atlantic puffin…
Only one thing true in your statements. Rafale FCS limit plane to 30°. And it is a tactical choice. During tests it was seen at 110°, -20 Kts
2018 Rafale demo “from inside” really interesting. Regularly way above 9g. Poor pilot fighting forces…
J31do not exist yet. It is FC-31 afaik.
Classic J-turn. spectacular for airshows (honestly i love it). Extreme loss of energy.
justin bronk on the head… “expert”…
he is talking about arctic challenge 2017 as far as i remember. MS20 version
Maybe because i know them? Have you ever seen me give wrong infos about Rafale? Of course i could (anyone can make mistakes), but generally speaking my assertinos about Rafale capabilities are right no? Being invited to Le Bourget or Farnborough have some advantages.
EF´s tranche 3 is 4+ generation. It is not comparable to any platform 5º generation as F-35
i love those bold assessments. Everything depends on context,mission types, doctrina etc.
That’s the exact opposite of what Desert Storm statistics show as regards ground-based air defences. And modern aircraft can look-down and shoot-down with ease.
urban legend. Check.