As i said, i heard it here and there… From ppl that consider under 80% pk is a failure (i think they wee referring to aster or Thaad). But as i’m def no expert, i’m lookin for info and comparisons. 53% is the best? What about euro and russian (i dont expect any data from chinese ones), how are they doing?
If i was ironic i’d say that some small countries experienced the price of disagreeing with Irak millenars ago.
But i’m fairly dubious about buying Russian fighters (or did they become stanag compliants for weapons?) aside to F16
That’s just the idiots at Wired being idiots.
Lets hope we (UK and FR) are able to take apart some nation pride and build something nice using both programs…
But i def dunno how to have Dassault and BAE share a “leader” role… We need TWO projects…:(
(which may happen if as some rumours say, EFCAS could be an optionnally manned aircraft)
There are two ways to take a plane out with a missile:
The first is to have a seeker and maneuver ability “good enough” to get “close enough” to explode and damage an object going an average of less than mach 1 and is the size of a 30 ft by 30 ft square.
The second is to have a seeker and maneuver ability to hit a 1 ft by 3 ft object going more than mach 3.
Previous AAM designs have gone for the first option due to the limitations of technology while PAC-3 & CUDA have gone for the second.
Remember that if you do not have a warhead or proximity fuse, then more space can be dedicated to the motor which means a longer range capability.
btw, The PAC-3 and CUDA are not pure HTK designs. They contain a small explosive charge that fragments the missile’s seeker section so as to hit the target with a ~3ft ball of shrapnel rather than a single 7 inch wide (bigger for PAC-3). If the main missile passes you by within inches, you will still get hit with a lot of that shrapnel.
I might be wrong, but didnt i hear here and there that PAC3 pk is atrociously low?
sweden would not sell to Iraq AFAIK. The french and British don’t have such moral qualms 😀 the swedes threw a wobbly when they found out the americans gave some AT4s to the Iraqis… so can’t imagine them selling any gripens directly 😀 especially as the large kurdish refugee minority in sweden would be burning themselves alive outside the parliament etc… and lots of other ugly / bad / negative media repercussions…
As SAAB is largely owned by BAE, dont worry, they’ll sell to anyone with a proper bribing :diablo:
kidding of course
Aircraft with spine usually have more fuel and electronics space. see Su-34 compared to F-15E. or MIG-29K vs Rafale.
JSR, diameter of M88 is 700 mm, RD33 is afaik 1m…
see why you dont need a spine?
UK supersonic stealth drone preparing for test flight
Nice achievement, but any source about “supersonic”???
Scorpion, is there a place i can find a clear sum up of drops, tranches, blocks, SPs, PEs etc. about Eurofighter? Tried to follow your discussion with JL on starstreak, but got lost somewhere…
Thank you 😎
The recent discussion about the PGM/Hakim family of, er, PGMs in relation to a possible second-hand sale of the UAE’s M2000-9 fleet has made me wonder why it was not developed further or exported to more customers. According to the info I could find, Hakim is very similar in concept to the more recent (and highly acclaimed) AASM. Both are kits which use dumb bombs as warheads and are thus available in several sizes, both have multiple guidance options and both seem to have rocket motors to extend range*.
There are a few notable differences though: AASM has INS/GPS guidance while the Hakim can be fitted with laser (never actually seen the laser variant, though!) or man-in-the-loop TV seekers. Similar options are being mooted for the AASM however and the folding tail is also a useful feature since it makes the weapon compact enough to be carried on MERs, unlike the bulky PGMs.
So why was the Hakim not marketed more aggressively and upgraded with GPS/INS guidance (which should be very straight-forward) years ago? It is only quite recently that MBDA (which inherited the originally British PGM-family) acquired an interest in Sagem’s AASM via a cooperative project. What if the weapon had been integrated on the Typhoon to steal some of Rafale’s multirole-thunder? Or, less confrontationally, given the close Anglo-French cooperation in the air-launched weapons field that was brought about by the creation of MBDA, why fund AASM at all rather than putting Hakim on Rafale?
*like the AGM-123 & -130, although these missiles were not developed based on a common modular philosophy, so I’m ignoring them here.
Aouch VERY HOT topic (see discussions on Rafale thread :eek:)
Just a little precision (hope you appreciate the joke :rolleyes:) AASM exist in three versions (in service, others being developed) : GPS/INS ; GPS/INS/laser ; GPS/INS/IR (terminal ir image recognition guidance).
Noob question : why not a eurocanard?
But i thought the thread title was about choppers? Lost in translation.
According to Fox News (and therefore with a bucket of salt), Australia may half its F35 command
Thank you for the answer.
Apologies if these are very broad questions.1- Can the T1 block 5 be upgraded to something better.
2- What sort of missions does the T1 B5 carry out.
3- Is it expensive to operate.
4- Is the t1 b5 a good air to air plane at leat comparable to the F-15.Regards
i can answer to point 4 : YES (maybe apart from AESA F15, and even so…)
I leave the rest to Typhoon experts.
Sorry, yes i was talking about MTOW, with full A2G ordnance etc.
And yes i think it applies to Rafale, to which extent both are efficient is another debate …
1 – yes
2 – GBU-10/16, IRIS-T, AIM-9L, AIM-120A-C5
3 – yes
4 – no, but it may in the future
5 – refer to 2
😮 expert’s answer…
Pretty much all the features that the F35 uses to manage IR signature is already used by the others (like Rafale and Gripen). The big difference here is lower fuel consumption for the others, lower drag for the others (less frictional heating) and smaller size (F35 is the bulkiest and heaviest).
Smaller objects require less cooling.
Just think about it, the empty weight of a F35A is 13,5 tonnes! The Gripen is 7 tonnes and Rafale is 9,5. Loaded weight for F35 is 22,5 tonnes compared to just over 9 tonnes for Gripen and 14-15 tonnes for Rafale. This puts a loaded F35 in the same weight class as a loaded Su27 or F22.
Hmm up to 23 tons for rafale… But it has a cool air channel surrounding engines and exhaust, dunno about Gripen