The cost comparison on that document is ridiculous.
Did you read the footnotes? Which ones are ridiculous? They are in 2014 dollars, obviously th F-35 costs are estimated as it has not reached frp.
(Euro exchange rate was higher in 2014)
Heritage foundation research on f-35
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2016/08/operational-assessment-of-the-f-35a-argues-for-full-program-procurement-and-concurrent-development-process
Polled 31 pilots on f-35 compared to their current fighters on maneuverability, bvr, etc. interesting read considering the F-35 is still limited to 7g and claw restrictions.
Edit- was posted over @ f-16.net.
The USAF already wrote off the idea of developing the A-X from the T-X. Learning lessons from mission creep or paying lip service to congressional concerns over CAS? Either way, T-X is not going to replace the A-10.
In my humble opinion, Jane’s were never better than they are today, it’s just the average Joe who can get much better and more inside info about pretty much anything these days. A guy with access to some good forums with few active insiders can easily know more about what’s really happening than the whole IHS staff (no pun intended).
Going to disagree with this- times change so does journalism. I own many Jane’s Fighting ships from the 1940’s-80’s. They were considered the bible for naval matters for nearly 100 years. There were always some inaccuracies considering the opaque nature of the topic, but they had the most experienced staff and were the definitive source for western open source defense information.
It is a bit ironic that people quote part of the editorials from Defense-Aerospace.com as truth and are up in arms about the YouTube video from Janes. First, the Pak-Fa program is not happening in the spotlight of a 24 hour news media cycle reporting every hiccup. The defense media publications are probably going on guesswork and what little information on the program gets reported to them through sources. As we can all see from being on here, there are differing “ahem” opinions on thing like empty weight, engine power, composite makeup, stealth features of the Pak-Fa project, just to name a few. Can it be possible that the defense journals have little better, or no better information than this forum? Quite possible.
He hates the F-35 if I am not mistaken.
No, he’s referring to Sweetman taking a job at NG. The major aviation (defense) journals have taken the same hit as all print media: declining revenues, smaller staff, loss of most experienced reporters. IHS Janes is no different. As the proliferation of defense blogs show-literally any idiot (have a few in mind) can blog about defense issues with “analysis”. People link to some of them on this forum, always a good laugh.
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160801/1473336170.html
Afghanistan wants Mi-35Ms, but they have no way of paying for them.
What kind of craziness is this? Are you telling me Russia dosn’t just hand over billions in weapons as aid? You Russians sure are odd.
-sarcasm off-
are military jets even equipped with transponders ?
Yeah, congested airspace would be very dangerous if they weren’t. US and Russia accuse each other of turning off transponders.
At the contrary the close coordination between land and air forces is one of the “secrets” of the great effectiveness of said expedition and that finally seems to have finally get also into the dumb heads of the international coalition commanders despite their congenite JDAMtism.
And accuracy matter a lot:it is precisely because of that they have introduced a such large swathes of SVP-24 and others targeting devices in their planes.
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Let’s inject a little realism. Would you rather be a JTAC embedded with Iraqi force directing JDAM strikes similar to the recent operation in fallujah, or a FAC embedded with the SAA directing SVP-24 bomb runs in Alleppo dozens of meters from your position?
JDAMism is a good disease when it’s someone’s a**, especially in an urban environment. Unfortunately, a smart bomb can’t account for dumb/outdated intelligence on a target- either way innocents die.
“Hawk” Carlisle wants new weapons for the fifth gen fighters
Carlisle closed the interview discussing the dynamic of weapons development, effectively saying that fifth generation aircraft need fifth generation weapons, both kinetic, DE and electronic.
“There is a clear need for new weapons. We need range; we need magazine depth; we need broad-spectrum capabilities. We need to be able to do a central sweep that can cover the spectrum that’s not defined by medium range, or medium-wave IR, or X Band, but rather can cover the IR spectrum potentially in the EO/IR, and potentially the RF spectrum as well. Besides the networking and the architecture that we haven’t shaped to the level that we want to, the next thing is we have great fifth-generation capability with fourth-gen weapons, and that doesn’t make sense.
“I don’t need a new point-and-shoot weapon,” he said. “I just want a look and shoot, and I want unlimited magazine depth. I want scalable effects so that based on what the environment is I can change the weapon’s effect to protect friendlies.”
http://breakingdefense.com/2016/08/hawk-carlisle-on-the-way-ahead-de-ew-data/
F-15 gets a new brain
https://www.dvidshub.net/news/205202/f-15-unit-tests-new-game-changing-processor
The ADCP II computer operating system controls all displays, basic flight instruments, caution and warning capabilities, cooling and heating and every weapon and targeting system in the jet, according to Elliott, the 40th Flight Test Squadron F-15 flight commander.
“This processor will allow us to drive a new defensive suite, an entirely new cockpit of displays, and a significant number of future additions to the jet that have not even been designed yet,” said Elliott.
F-35 Aim-9X fired against drone
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2016/08/01/air-force-f-35-hits-drone-with-sidewinder-missile-in-kill-test/
The F-35 was able to complete a series of complex steps to track and target the drone, including IDing the object with mission systems sensors; communicating with the missile; giving the pilot, Air Force Maj. Raven LeClair the change to confirm the targeting information using the high-tech F-35 helmet mounted display, and launching the missile to engage the target, according to the release.
Remains to be seen how often the F-35 will carry external weapons, if the F-22 is any indication, not very often.
Edit- With regard to external weapons: I don’t believe the USAF has ever followed through with the development of additional underwing Amraam (for the F-22). They can carry them for ferrying i.e. “Rapid Raptor” deployments, but I believe the dual adaptor for Amraam or Aim-9 has not been utilized nor tested (other than captive carry).
Another piece that is potentially good news:
Fesler acknowledged that the while the interchange of information between 5th and 4th Gen platforms was challenging, the sharing between 5th and 5th Gen platforms was relatively seamless.
Legacy systems of the 4th Gen aircraft require substantial upgrades to effectively communicate the high volume of battlespace information (e.g. Talon Hate pods).
Even though the F-22 has been in service over 10 years, its systems have maintained adequate pace with the F-35As systems, ensuring seamless data communication and a shared picture of the battlespace.
http://www.sldinfo.com/usaf-moves-forward-with-integration-of-f-22-and-f-35/
There is actually some merit to a variant of this idea. With missile costs as high as they are, and inventories correspondingly lower, there could be a place for swarms of very low cost drones/cruise missiles. You could see them coming, but could you, would you, shoot million dollar missiles at them? That is obviously the thinking behind something like the UTAP-22. The trick would be to create a drone with sufficient performance to be challenging to shoot down, but remain cheap enough to keep the cost advantage.
Something like the ADM-160 MALD with it’s unit cost of roughly 300,000 USD. Cheap enough to launch in large numbers. Don’t know if the MALD-V went anywhere, but certainly it is an option.
http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2010targets/Rutt.pdf
Tactical recon UAV’s, even a relatively simple one like the Searcher-2 (unit cost around 6 million) alleged to be perpetrator in this latest incident, are pretty expensive. Then again, when you fire roughly 5 million dollars of missiles at one and miss…..
? Sepheronx, the article is from 2013
Matthew Rust was trailed by MiG-23’s and the commander on the ground made the call not to shoot down.
That was according to the later history. Rust reported the Mig-23 fly by, the pilot of the Mig ID’d the aircraft as similar to a Yak-12. This was a mere 4 years after the shoot down of KAL 007. That pilot could clearly see the passenger windows before he fired on orders in that case. The reason Rust was not downed was very much because he was not properly ID’d nor deemed a threat. He flew threw the SAM ring around Moscow, do you really think that was allowed because it was a Cessna? Or do you believe that Rust was allowed to land in Red Square out of the sanctity for human life? Again, PVO downed a 747 near Sakhalin due to an incursion, a Cessna was allowed to fly within a few miles of the Kremlin, please.
I was not sure at the beginning but now it seems quite clear.. much of that is India’s fault.. you are unable to operate pretty much any aircraft beyond the ~65% serviceability rate, not MiGs, not Sukhois, not Jags, not Hawks, nothing.. Good luck trying to blame others but whenever India is discussed, we always end up with bureaucracy, lack of planning, flawed contracts and delayed deliveries.
And frankly, I don’t give sh!t for a second whether you take offense to that.. I won’t call snow black just to satisfy your nationalistic jingoism..
India’s fault? Or India’s fault that they operate types that they don’t produce or have an indigenous spares program for? You’ve stated that the Mig-29 had no issues in VVS service. That is incorrect, and well documented (look at previous page). The Mirage-2000 have received excellent reviews for availability in IAF service. 65% serviceability/availability would be considered acceptable by most air forces standards. The Migs have never reached that number in the IAF, nor in recent VVS/VKS service.
USAF does operate aircraft as least as old as most Mig’s. I’ve posted the availability of all F-15/16 in USAF service in the “not f-35” thread. The Sukhoi’s get a pass, they are improving with better after sale service and parts, the Mig’s…not so much.