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  • in reply to: Future of Belgian Air Component #2191448
    FBW
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    Here is what Aviation Week had reported late last year :

    Do you know if that was in € or $

    That makes a heck of a lot more sense. I know they set an estimated life-cycle cost of 15 billion €.

    in reply to: Future of Belgian Air Component #2191544
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    3.6 Billion wouldn’t get Belgium 34 of any new western fighter with support until 2030 with the extent of support stipulated. Will have to read through the RFP again but on the face of it, budget seems only sufficient for procurement, spares.

    FBW
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    Gloster Javelin.
    Armament – 4 x 30mm Aden and 4 De Havilland Firestreak AAMs

    So your saying it was just armed with cannon…. and wing ballast. JK

    FBW
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    1950’s are tough because of the rapid technological advances (and rapid obsolescence) of propulsion, radar, weapons.
    Going to stick with pure day fighters and split the ’50’s into two halves:

    First half of the 1950’s:
    Mig-15bis (pilot attrition due to spin characteristics would be a concern)
    F-86E or F (relatively weak guns)

    Second half of 1950’s:
    Mig-19 (lack of missile armament is a knock)
    Super Mystère (I may be overrating these due to Israeli combat performance)

    in reply to: 2017 F-35 news and discussion thread #2192707
    FBW
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    I agree with you BIO and swerve.. you probably know about this much more than I do, but the primary idea here is that the Belgian and Bahraini deals are not directly comparable, as FBW tried to imply.. not by far..

    Actually I think you missed the point completely. Read my first post to you. “All FMS deal are different”.

    It wasn’t comparing the two, it was a point of reference. Unless you know what support, equipment, terms of support, etc, you can’t look a an FMS deal and say “Yep, 200 million a pop just like I thought”.

    Bahrain operates F-16 block 40’s, to add 16 more F-16V was 2.8 billion, does that say the F-16 is exorbitantly expensive? Get my point now?

    in reply to: 2017 F-35 news and discussion thread #2192768
    FBW
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    No, FMS contracts have specific parameters.
    Your argument would have merit if it were a direct commercial sale.
    Read it yourself:
    https://www.state.gov/t/pm/rls/rm/2017/271928.htm

    https://www.dau.mil/guidebooks/Shared%20Documents/JST-05%20FMS.pdf

    in reply to: 2017 F-35 news and discussion thread #2193046
    FBW
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    To put it into context, consider the recent F-16V FMS notice for Bahrain:
    http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/government-bahrain-f-16v-aircraft-support
    2.8 billion for 16 aircraft. Bahrain already operates F-16’s so much of the maintenance training and support is in place. Logically, it going to be less expensive for Bahrain to purchase 16 more F-16’s than Belgium which is inducting a new aircraft into service (simulators, tools, man-hours training support staff).

    in reply to: 2017 F-35 news and discussion thread #2193061
    FBW
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    All those shared R&D cost were only meant to get as many customers onboard, as possible, before the thing blew up to 29k lbs empty weight and $200mil price tag..

    I let that slide when you quoted 200 million above. Every single FMS deal (and aircraft contract in general) is different depending on the level of support, spares, training, non-recurring milcon expenses for basing and support.

    If you want to take a simplistic approach of total contract value and dividing by airframes, then this F-35 deal is STILL cheaper than most recent fighter contracts for western aircraft.

    But of course, that isn’t an accurate comparison. Not to mention FMS deals are high estimates, and tracking of FMS estimates has consistently shown variance between actual contract costs and the estimates.

    in reply to: 2017 F-35 news and discussion thread #2193121
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    If you weren’t always sucking on the american tit you would realize that it’s precisely the goal of the F35 project, and why the program was defined as it was, to suck up R&D budget and fixate customers to wait for it instead of running real competitions or going on gvt to gvt deals.

    Here I thought it was to meet the needs of the partner nations that shared the development costs and are currently sharing competitive bidding on contracts to the benefit of their own aerospace industries while getting a modern and capable asset.

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2193153
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    It seems me that some of the intervention in this discussion ( notably the ones coming from the other side of Atlantic) suffer of a sort of mental block or almost doesn’t even read wht is written.
    They seems to be always stuck to always the same point i.e. the overall precision of the weapon used, a point that was never raised up in the first place by others and cannot just get that the critics expressed are about STRATEGY ( they have approached air campaign against ISIS as it were against a conventional enemy luke Saddam Hussen + a sprinkle of drone strike like their were Osama Bin Laden hiding in a cave in Afghanistan) and TACTIC (they as a consequence use their tactical fighters in long range missions over fixed, predetermined targets instead to have them used as a support to ongoing land operations or to autonomously searching their own targets).

    Given that they seems not able to shrug them off of this quasi-pavlovian mental habit, I call myself off giving that I have said all what I need to say and I thing that all those that have instead put their own mind on discussion have correctly understood the point I have tried to made.

    It is difficult to see someone’s overall point when their post is littered with inaccuracies, from the very first post to the above about:
    use of PGM
    Accuracy of systems like SVP-24
    Tactics and types of munitions used by coalition

    Not to mention, I think many of us understood you perfectly. Your M.O. is to say negative things about U.S. equipment, tactics while praising that of Russia, then back off when called out for the errors and obvious issues with your post. Usually claiming you were misunderstood. Those that responded “from the other side of the Atlantic” understood your post perfectly, corrected the errors you stated and reject your overall point as absurd and bias.

    Here is a perfect example of the inaccuracy of your statements:

    TACTIC (they as a consequence use their tactical fighters in long range missions over fixed, predetermined targets instead to have them used as a support to ongoing land operations or to autonomously searching their own targets

    Even the B-52’s operating over Syria carry a mix of GBU-54 (dual guidance) and GBU-31. Which means they can attack fixed targets and targets of opportunity as they appear. The US also shot out a large portion of their AGM-114 stocks, another fact that puts to lie your assessment of their operational tactics.

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2193389
    FBW
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    And i agree with Marcello@

    This is getting very Tedious.. very boring. Boooring!
    People aren’t really getting the big picture.
    VKS Munition along with Strategic stand-off Munition, has helped SAA kick the Beardies back to the Desert Caves or beyond.

    Give Credit where Credits due.

    Yeah, and the Kurds backed up by coalition aircraft weren’t driving ISIS across Syria while Aleppo was being turned into the world’s largest parking lot.

    And to be clear, there’s no doubt that Russia’s intervention on behalf of Assad was decisive. But also to be clear, up until recently most of who they bombed were anti-Assad forces of various allegiances (many with ties to al-Qaeda) but ISIS was mostly in the east.

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2193391
    FBW
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    And again another time, repeat with me: even RuAF use guided weapons, even RuAF use guided weapons, even RuAF use…

    …it but doesn’t like sat guided ones and neither SALH is on top of the list.

    P.S. The numbers made by the same chief of Gefest are 5-6 meters in ideal conditions and a radius of twenty (Maximum, not CEP) as an average registered during the first two years of russian intervention. Exactly the ones I have reported earlier on #7150 in discorsive form.

    And the issue is your repeating numbers that all false on face value. No, Gefest does NOT have a CEP of 5-6 meters…
    Ever. (And you conveniently leave off that CEP of any digital bombing system is dependent on altitude, meaning a LOT of the figures listed are for lowest altitude and not necessarily a safe altitude for a particular bombs release for the parent aircraft)

    With a large enough yield it does not matter, but…. it does when u have personnel on the ground within the blast radius. Look at the min safe distance for both aircraft and ground personnel for a bomb of different yields then stop repeating b.s. industry placard figures. IF Russia had a sufficient stockpile of Glonass guided bombs, that would be what they would be using, period.

    Repeat after me, once an unguided bomb is dropped it is a dumb bomb which accuracy can be affected by hundreds of factors both atmospheric and release oriented which impact accuracy.

    FBW
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    Sprey likes to hear the sound of his own voice, too bad what he is saying is never accurate.

    Glad to see he’s found an outlet for his opinions on RT. Most others have written him off long ago (unless they want a pseudo-expert for a hit piece article). Before you make him your new idol KGB, you might want to read his opinion on flankers vs the F-16 he “designed” (but actually had no part in designing).

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2194352
    FBW
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    18k for gps, tail unit, etc. considering CPFH, it’s dumb NOT to bomb with guided weapons.

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2194578
    FBW
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    B-17´s? Pre designated locations while doing CAS? Really?

    In Marcellogo’s mind, the use of precision guided munitions is somehow inferior to the use of radar/GPS aided dumb bomb releases and the TLAR method, and apparently doesn’t realize that JDAM and SDB both come with laser guided versions as needed, not to mention the traditional paveway series, and newer viper strike.

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