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Charity begins at home?

Lets hope that in the days to come, those that think that charity begins at home put that thought to one side to help those who are suffering in the Philippines.

It’s good to see that the UK, as always, is among the first to offer help and support.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 18th November 2013 at 13:35

Df, Not for me, I can’t be ars*d to sort it out and put it all into different plastic bags, then there is the cost of the Petrol to get to my Bank, which would negate the cost even more than the machine grabs.
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By: charliehunt - 18th November 2013 at 13:31

Indeed. I repeat my comment from earlier ” Answer: because it is desperate to project itself as a “state” hence its huge foreign budget and overpaid “Representative”!!

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By: j_jza80 - 18th November 2013 at 13:27

There isn’t the same acrimony towards UK government donations that exists towards the EU’s contribution. Don’t you think that’s odd?.
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Our government are donating on our behalf. What’s the point in the EU donation? Why not just reduce our EU tariffs, and enable us to give more to worthy causes directly? We don’t need a European dictatorship to be charitable.

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By: Derekf - 18th November 2013 at 13:18

His whole post was questioning the legitimacy of the EU sending more of our money overseas. You described it as “moaning” – I would describe it as prudence, something that most, UK and EU alike seem to lack these days. It should be remembered that the money we are giving is not our own wealth, we are borrowing money to give it away. So on top of our healthy donations, there’ll be millions of pounds in interest to pay too.

There isn’t the same acrimony towards UK government donations that exists towards the EU’s contribution. Don’t you think that’s odd?.

Good for you Lincoln_7. You would however be better taking it to a bank. Those Coinstar machines cost you 9%.

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By: charliehunt - 18th November 2013 at 13:15

It should be remembered that the money we are giving is not our own wealth, we are borrowing money to give it away. So on top of our healthy donations, there’ll be millions of pounds in interest to pay too.

A point which some of us were debating earlier in the thread before you joined us.

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By: charliehunt - 18th November 2013 at 13:12

I do a similar thing, Linc!:) And I know you will be more resourceful with your pennies to pounds than “you know who”!!:rolleyes:

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By: Lincoln 7 - 18th November 2013 at 13:01

I have a small tin, by my chair. Every night, I put all the change from my pocket, usually, 10, 5, 2, and 1Ps in it, Today, I used the Cash Change machine, in Tescos, to change my assorted cash from my tin,it amounted to just over £45.00.
So, every penny soon mounts up.to POUNDS….:o, Filling the car up with petrol, seemed less expensive today.
Jim.
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By: j_jza80 - 18th November 2013 at 12:50

Where did I say that? .

His whole post was questioning the legitimacy of the EU sending more of our money overseas. You described it as “moaning” – I would describe it as prudence, something that most, UK and EU alike seem to lack these days. It should be remembered that the money we are giving is not our own wealth, we are borrowing money to give it away. So on top of our healthy donations, there’ll be millions of pounds in interest to pay too.

I’m proud that we’re punching well above our weight with the donations, and I hope it’s making a significant difference to the recovery. I hope that, were the tables turned, nations would come to our aid as quickly and as generously.

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By: Derekf - 18th November 2013 at 12:40

So, you believe that a political body is beyond scrutiny when being charitable?

Where did I say that? I was pointing out that charliehunt is using the fact the that EU gave money to charity (without his permission apparently) as a reason to have a go at the EU. It’s pathetic frankly.

It’s a wonder he hasn’t had a go at the BBC in the same post TBH. Maybe that’ll be later.

So are the Philippines going to become a hot-bed of organized crime because it is EU money they are getting?

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By: j_jza80 - 18th November 2013 at 12:29

I have seen reasons for moaning about the EU but this one takes the biscuit. It is giving money to help to recover from a natural disaster FFS. Jeez……

So, you believe that a political body is beyond scrutiny when being charitable?

I’m glad that we’ve donated so much, and even glad that the EU has in this instance. However, I would be keen to see a detailed breakdown of how these funds are being used, as all too often the money ends up in the wrong pockets.

Look at Italy for an example of how EU disaster funds directly fund organised crime.

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By: Derekf - 18th November 2013 at 12:16

And that’s on top of whatever the 28 members have donated as national contributions. WHY? Did they ask us?? Answer: because it is desperate to project itself as a “state” hence its huge foreign budget and overpaid “Representative”!!

I have seen reasons for moaning about the EU but this one takes the biscuit. It is giving money to help to recover from a natural disaster FFS. Jeez……

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By: charliehunt - 18th November 2013 at 11:43

Tuppence too much – remember, where the EU is concerned tuppences can grow into pounds with you even noticing!!:D:mad:

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By: Creaking Door - 18th November 2013 at 11:29

The EU has also donated $17m on our behalf.

Blimey! That’s about tuppence each…..last of the big spenders!!! :rolleyes:

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By: charliehunt - 18th November 2013 at 11:20

And that’s on top of whatever the 28 members have donated as national contributions. WHY? Did they ask us?? Answer: because it is desperate to project itself as a “state” hence its huge foreign budget and overpaid “Representative”!!

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By: j_jza80 - 18th November 2013 at 11:10

The EU has also donated $17m on our behalf.

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By: charliehunt - 18th November 2013 at 10:53

Well I did spot the “rolling-eyes” so……..in fact it is a VERY long time since I crossed the Waitrose portals – it’s the best of the supermarkets, but unfortunately the high quality is reflected in the prices. Sorry for thread drift….

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By: Creaking Door - 18th November 2013 at 10:47

I know, I’m only pulling-your-leg(s)! 🙂

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By: charliehunt - 18th November 2013 at 10:41

The discussion is about is about whether we want to increase taxes to make available more foreign aid.

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By: Creaking Door - 18th November 2013 at 10:24

I can’t believe you’re all moaning about a penny ‘tax’ on your diesel…

…and yet you’re all shopping in Waitrose! :rolleyes:

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By: trumper - 18th November 2013 at 10:20

I don’t know where the charities are located ,we don’t have a local waitrose so can’t comment.

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