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I heard on the radio just now, the second Senior Police Officer has resigned pending the Parliamentary enquiry into the NOTW bribery, phone tapping allegation.
By resigning, they retain their highly lucrative Pensions, and Superanuation Lump sum.
Not stupid, are they?. and once again it’s the Met.

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By: Sky High - 20th July 2011 at 14:19

Presumably, aviation….;):)

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By: nJayM - 20th July 2011 at 14:12

I do for my sins live in Edinburgh

But – do we REALLY know he/she lives in Edinburgh and likes fast cars and rowing. Perhaps she lives in Petworth and is a local WI member…… that’s the thing about the internet – we just don’t know who any of us are, REALLY, do we?;):D

I do for my sins live in Edinburgh:D
Moving soon though for a job in aspects I have a passion for.

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By: nJayM - 20th July 2011 at 14:11

Hey guys I am me , a little browner than most of you even after a sun tan

Hey guys I am me , a little browner than most of you even after a sun tan.

Someday maybe soon maybe some of us will meet and over a few beers, glasses of wine or even some Champers we can speak freely and have some good food.

I never got where I was by hiding (a little bit of Reg Perrin series coming in there):D

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By: nJayM - 20th July 2011 at 14:07

The fact that the only software switching window in EU …

You must think very highly of us on this forum to think that we would all understand the technicalities of your lengthy post. For myself, much of it might just as well have been written in hieroglyphics.

Leaving the technicalities of your profession aside, am I to understand that you fear for your life because of the knowledge you have at your disposal? ‘…on the pain of death’ and ‘the silver bullet that already has my name on it’ are, to say the least, very emotive phrases, but in this current context of internet anonymity are unsubstantiated and meaningless and add absolutely nothing to further the thread.

I, personally, would be interested to know what level of technical indispensibility removes the right for you to be at your dying Mother’s bedside (whilst she eats cake) and then prevents you attending her funeral?

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The only big software switching window the banking world have in the EU is between midnight of Dec 23 and midnight of Dec 31 each year. Mum popped her clogs at 4 am on Dec 26. Every flight to where she was – was chokka, could have made it 1st class only to turn around and back.
Like any pilot; in good software management and new product implementation pre Y2K a complete road map of the switch had to be gone over with Directors and a point of no return calculated.
As a team of 3 tech experts (DBA, network, myself) reporting to a director and developing a 4 banks’ combined investment fund administration operation pre Y2K I was personally responsible for measuring, planning for and going for the decision at point of no return.
That point of no return was the 26 Dec.
Either the business users came in on 01 January to a new robust application or they saw no different from when they broke for Christmas.
I had every right to go but to see a mother dead was not much I could do was there. Had I known before (almost Faraday cage environment with respect to mobiles and email) Dec 25 sure I would have re sched. the plan and possibly angered a few business people but not after we were rolling. Same as a Capt. and First Officer with joint hands on throttles at take off – the point of no return, I was technically committed.
Hence my grievous predicament.:(

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By: nJayM - 20th July 2011 at 13:51

No more intelligence than you just use some parts of it

Jay. Intelligent that you seem to be, and that there is a “Silver bullet” with your name on it, adding the fact you live in Edinburgh, like fast cars and ROWING, you wouldn’t be hard to find in two or three days, if what you have stated is true. I think if I were you, I would be moving, FAST, and changing my I.D. and having facial Plastic Surgery 🙂

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Hi Jim,
No I walk most places – the pot holes on Edinburgh’s roads even in buses can be a pain (real physical pain). No need to hide in my case, I am where I learnt my proprietary UNIX but now that I have as an old fogey just graduated with a BA (Hons) Accounting I am going to combine my boyhood dreams and loves. Work for a sub contractor to one of the aero space giants as the combination of skills I have (all honest and been there) are fairly unique including that of being able to fly. This almost means down to England or back in Europe where there are gorgeous rivers and a lot of flying.:cool:
Plastic surgery may be one I might consider if I go back to a 6 figure salary just to ensure I can attract a sensible female.;)
My light sabre is my brain and me.:cool:
BT know where I am and they can try to take me out but to what end?:D

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By: Sky High - 20th July 2011 at 13:46

That does not surprise me one iota and I know the same can be said of many members – there are exceptions to every rule…..and I did include a wink and a grin after my comment.:)

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By: kev35 - 20th July 2011 at 13:45

Sky High.

That’s very true, even I’m not sure who I am.

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By: Grey Area - 20th July 2011 at 13:42

I’ve met Kev, and he’s a sterling chap.

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By: Sky High - 20th July 2011 at 13:21

But – do we REALLY know he/she lives in Edinburgh and likes fast cars and rowing. Perhaps she lives in Petworth and is a local WI member…… that’s the thing about the internet – we just don’t know who any of us are, REALLY, do we?;):D

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By: Lincoln 7 - 20th July 2011 at 12:52

Jay. Intelligent that you seem to be, and that there is a “Silver bullet” with your name on it, adding the fact you live in Edinburgh, like fast cars and ROWING, you wouldn’t be hard to find in two or three days, if what you have stated is true. I think if I were you, I would be moving, FAST, and changing my I.D. and having facial Plastic Surgery 🙂

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By: Lincoln 7 - 20th July 2011 at 12:41

Linc – just do a bit of googling – it is not that difficult, but I am certainly not going to make it easier for you!!;) With the increasing use of text messaging and reduction of voicemail I understand it will become increasingly difficult for hackers. Although no doubt ways will be found to circumvent the problem, as they always are.

Kev’s post made me smile!:)

I am on my second box of tissues:D
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By: kev35 - 20th July 2011 at 12:35

You must think very highly of us on this forum to think that we would all understand the technicalities of your lengthy post. For myself, much of it might just as well have been written in hieroglyphics.

Leaving the technicalities of your profession aside, am I to understand that you fear for your life because of the knowledge you have at your disposal? ‘…on the pain of death’ and ‘the silver bullet that already has my name on it’ are, to say the least, very emotive phrases, but in this current context of internet anonymity are unsubstantiated and meaningless and add absolutely nothing to further the thread.

I, personally, would be interested to know what level of technical indispensibility removes the right for you to be at your dying Mother’s bedside (whilst she eats cake) and then prevents you attending her funeral?

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By: Grey Area - 20th July 2011 at 12:33

Would you like to buy this aluminium foil hat?

It’s very nice. 🙂

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By: nJayM - 20th July 2011 at 11:44

I am not any more knowledgeable than you all just am aware of how …

Gentleman and any ladies
BT is the licensee of all UK telecommunications throughput (as was Ma Bell of old in the USA) albeit now monitored and managed by OFTEL.
Digital and Analogue operate differently for technical reasons all of you are probably more expert at than I am.

Mobile telecommunications works using honeycomb style transmitters/relay aerials, base stations control at various points the throughput of wireless telephony, how can base stations be managed remotely (crisis, usage management, billing statistics, security [Ha!], etc) ? Only a crackpot will manage the base station remotely using their own mobile network (also bandwidth constraints for applying security patches and software updates).
Need I say more folks.

My job for many years (21+), which cost me for my technical indispensability being unable as an only child to be at my mother’s bedside when she was dying or even get to her Anglican burial service has left me with OEM NDAs that even on the pain of death I cannot reveal. It still brings tears to my eyes when afterwards I had to individually interview the two bedside attendants (substituted by a mad relative) who fed my mum cake in her hospital bed when in reality she need resuscitation and ICU care

I fought the hackers, in many cases prevented any intrusion but it takes a very large open cheque to pay for technology and proprietary technical programmers, which some employers gladly buy in to.

What I can reveal though is a general technique we successfully used on the key ‘guardian’ servers in cluster configuration namely to have 5 x networks cards on each server. Different firewalls on each component of cluster. Heartbeat cross check, cluster fail over only when absolutely sure (milliseconds decision making though), then a technique I personally used was to let a hacker into the now safely isolated server and let him/her have a ‘field day’ of commercial authentic looking ‘garbage’ and traverse a pseudo network (harmless). Simultaneously if necessary trace routing can be used to see the hacker’s route (often well disguised by hacker though) in.
The above is when it is unplanned intrusion/hacking is taking place.

What we are discussing here though is well planned (the correct fees greasing the correct ‘filthy palms’) internally planned hacking; in fact not hacking at all simply monitoring gone corrupt.

Only one way to get to the heart of who is responsible. Staffing logs of all server management over the period long before and after the supposed hacking dates.

Examination at raw server level (at server operating system command line – not through multiple management software interfaces) technical operating system audit trails to see who went in at ‘root/super user level’ and when and for how long. Why has to be asked of each known entry login (person). What if any was installed or substituted (object files as they are called in the now proliferate ‘rubbish’ non proprietary LINUX can be created by anyone and made exactly the same size and name as a vital component in the Operating System, and substituted in a second by a corrupt employee using ‘root/super user’ access rights or using something called a SETUID).

I have spoken at length on the LINUX ‘evils’ to the highest in the business world but they listen not to a ‘brownie’ like me but to those who they choose to listen to.

Politicians shouting, making senior police officers the scapegoats isn’t what this is about it is a technical conundrum but can be solved given a little patience and diligence by harnessing some of the best proprietary UNIX brains in the world (will they bother – probably not as they are all sick of fighting a rearguard action against commercial corruption which this is as opposed to intrusive hacking which can be a technical challenge).

Here I must stop as to say anymore is to sign the firing of that silver bullet that already has my name on it. Not afraid to die but too many air shows and new aircraft I wish to see fly starting with the ‘plastic pig’.

Finally for a mere £1 buy from Amazon a book written way way back but still holds true on intrusive hacking – a man like me who remained technically true/rich, relatively poor (richer than me though) – but a real hero – ignored by every authority until he single handed uncovered the biggest intrusive hack of its time. “Cuckoos Egg by Clifford Stohl”.

In closing – what have BT got in technical excellence (ZILCH) to match the honest technical guys I know some sadly now dead when most of us gave BT two words that have as initials F.O. when they tried to recruit us.

I wish to not say any more on this thread with regards this sad sad tale which is happening in many many other cases as it sickens me to see how corrupt and sordid some technical people have become and I always ask myself WHY ? I am going to return to a aircraft ‘speak’ only on this forum – my real love along with rowing and fast cars and of course sensible attractive members of the fairer sex.

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By: Sky High - 20th July 2011 at 11:28

Linc – just do a bit of googling – it is not that difficult, but I am certainly not going to make it easier for you!!;) With the increasing use of text messaging and reduction of voicemail I understand it will become increasingly difficult for hackers. Although no doubt ways will be found to circumvent the problem, as they always are.

Kev’s post made me smile!:)

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By: kev35 - 20th July 2011 at 11:16

Perhaps our friend is suggesting that BT carry out the hacking on behalf of MFI and then pass it on through GCHQ to any number of sources such as KFC, BBC, ITV, HSBC, MoD and any other acronyms you can think of.

Perhaps that’s why our soldiers in Afghanistan are so ill equipped. When the Government should have ordered extra Chinooks, body armour and night vision goggles someone made a wrong connection and they ended up with 200,000 bargain buckets from KFC!

nJayM.

I award you this week’s prize of conspiracy theorist of the week.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 20th July 2011 at 11:01

S.H. Perhaps our knowledgable friend could tell us just how the hacking is done via Bluetooth or wireless transmissions?.

Could think of one or too I would like to hack into, if I knew how;)

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By: Sky High - 20th July 2011 at 10:54

I am sure you are right. We are only discussing hacking voice or text messages between mobile sources via wireless transmission or more locally Bluetooth communication, so why BT has been introduced into the debate I have no idea.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 20th July 2011 at 10:29

Mobiles do not only call mobiles on the same network but in reality they call any number local or international (landline or mobile) – how do you think most of it connects.

Thats a good question;) I always thought my phone messages, (Landline) travelled via fibreoptics underground, or Telegraph pole wires.
My mobile via Transmitters stationed at the best points to receive and then further transmit messages.
Being a thick old git, just how do they all connect, I am always prepared to learn something new.
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By: Sky High - 20th July 2011 at 08:46

Pagen #36 – no problem.:)

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