Price and Huhne –8 months fair or not??

Has anyone mentioned if he got the points on his licence and a ban? And did she have those on hers removed….

Her QC’s remarks that she should be spared jail as it will affect her future career prospects….. Ermm hang on, is that not the case for everyone jailed? Pretty feeble argument there.

Time inside about right, though I do think it should be a normal prison, hers possibly should have been less. I bet that will stop these stupid people going to the press and telling it all…. Talk about torpedoing yourself.

He was a politician who lied. But that should not be a reason for tarring all politicians with the same brush.

Q: How can you tell when a politician is lying?

A: Their lips move.

Ithangyow………. 😀

Has anyone mentioned if he got the points on his licence and a ban? And did she have those on hers removed….

Her QC’s remarks that she should be spared jail as it will affect her future career prospects….. Ermm hang on, is that not the case for everyone jailed? Pretty feeble argument there.

Charlie, Don’t think for one minute I agree with everything Andy states, I do happen to have a mind of my own, surprisingly enough. I have often posted the fact that I have agreed with many of your comments.
This post is about a man who the Public has been led astray by.
When you have spent 30 yrs in the Police Force, as I have, and heard and seen, and having to deal with the scum of the earth, then perchance your opinion may be different.I can only assume you have led a very sheltered life.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

You should be used to my teasing by now…;) No, the public hasn’t been lead astray. He was a politician who lied. But that should not be a reason for tarring all politicians with the same brush.
I can assure you that having been a policemen is not the only qualification for an unsheltered life. But perhaps not having been a policemen helps towards a more objective view of thew world.:)

Or is that the last vestiges of youthful idealism on my part rearing it’s ugly head..?
As to Jim (Lincoln) we’ve met so its different.

Andy

Andy
It would be good to think it wasn’t!:) And now I remember the photos from OW….

Well Charlie.
I do realise that I am somewhat bitter about the World and I’m not ashamed of that.
I see much badness that I’m impotent to improve or even alter, and from that position, surely anger is a natural response??
However, in your case, I do respect your opinion–and often that of Derek F and Grey Area too–even though it’s apparent that you tend to stare at each other across a huge political void. I do sometimes wonder that if apparently intelligent men like yourselves could put your small scale political differences aside and actually work together, we might get somewhere. Or is that the last vestiges of youthful idealism on my part rearing it’s ugly head..?
As to Jim (Lincoln) we’ve met so its different.

Andy

Charlie, Don’t think for one minute I agree with everything Andy states, I do happen to have a mind of my own, surprisingly enough. I have often posted the fact that I have agreed with many of your comments.
This post is about a man who the Public has been led astray by.
When you have spent 30 yrs in the Police Force, as I have, and heard and seen, and having to deal with the scum of the earth, then perchance your opinion may be different.I can only assume you have led a very sheltered life.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

“….LibDem MP for Eastbourne…..”? I thought he was MP for Eastleigh – 70 miles away !

He’s probably never been to either…:);):)

“….LibDem MP for Eastbourne…..”? I thought he was MP for Eastleigh – 70 miles away !

Andy

I am well used to your general bitterness as well illustrated in your posts so we’ll just have to agree to disagree about your opinion of politicians et al. And Lincoln usually follows in your shoes, as he has done in his response to your post, so he and I will have to agree to disagree as well.:)

Well Charlie.
I do realise that I am somewhat bitter about the World and I’m not ashamed of that.
I see much badness that I’m impotent to improve or even alter, and from that position, surely anger is a natural response??
However, in your case, I do respect your opinion–and often that of Derek F and Grey Area too–even though it’s apparent that you tend to stare at each other across a huge political void. I do sometimes wonder that if apparently intelligent men like yourselves could put your small scale political differences aside and actually work together, we might get somewhere. Or is that the last vestiges of youthful idealism on my part rearing it’s ugly head..?
As to Jim (Lincoln) we’ve met so its different.

Andy

I’m sure he could afford to pay just a fine…

Former Energy Secretary Chris Huhne has landed a lucrative role providing “advice on business strategy and policy” to a leading energy efficiency company.

The senior MP, who last year introduced illegal cuts to the Feed-in Tariff scheme, was paid a golden signing-on fee of £10,000 and awarded a retainer of £3,500-a-month for eight hours work with Nationwide Energy Services.

The Lib Dem MP for Eastbourne resigned his Cabinet position in February after he was charged with perverting the course of justice following an alleged speeding ticket scam with ex-wife Vicky Pryce.

According to the House of Commons’ latest Register of Members’ Financial Interests, Huhne received £20,500 from Nationwide Energy Services on October 22, which comprised of a £10,000 signature fee and a retainer of £3,500-a-month payable in advance for October, November and December for an estimated eight hours a month.

Seems spinning lies for the green lobby about the global warming threat flowed over into his private life!!

Andy

I am well used to your general bitterness as well illustrated in your posts so we’ll just have to agree to disagree about your opinion of politicians et al. And Lincoln usually follows in your shoes, as he has done in his response to your post, so he and I will have to agree to disagree as well.:)

Andy.
Plus 1.

Jim.

Lincoln .7

I remember more years ago than I care to remermber being invited to write a paper on “benevolent dictatorship” as the best form of rule. The problem is that benevolence will almost always turn into malevolence and history tells us where that leads.

No system works perfectly – of course! But I cannot join in the genrral forum anti-politician hysteria. In fact the majority get on with their jobs without fuss or publicity and in fact represent their constituents responsibly and well.

Charlie.
I never mentioned the word benevolent, simply because I wouldn’t be.
I’d work on the principle that I had a limited time to feather my nest and I’d get my snout into every trough I could. Working on the principle that it was my turn.
Which is exactly like all politicians in my opinion.
And while you’re wondering, why I therefore consider myself different to politicians, and the great ‘educated elite’ (like no doubt Ms Pryce believed herself to be and therefore no doubt above the law), well it’s this. I don’t set myself up to be one of the great moral arbiters of society–telling the great unwashed how they should live, breath, eat and no doubt copulate.
Whereas Huhne and his ilk think and inform us that they are the ‘moral and political leadership’ of the nation, whereas in reality they’re just like the rest of us–thieves, shiesters, sh*ggers and low-life criminals.
As I said, hubris, and my contempt for them knows no bounds.
They’d have got five years a piece if I’d had any say in it.
And I have no doubt in my mind even now that had you have been found guilty (or I for that matter) of perverting the course of justice, we’d have been very lucky to have got away with eight months.

No system works perfectly – of course! But I cannot join in the genrral forum anti-politician hysteria. In fact the majority get on with their jobs without fuss or publicity and in fact represent their constituents responsibly and well.

charlie………

Tend to agree with you. My gripe is really about “the system” which gives us a bunch of MPs who are not very representative of the population and therefore are largely out of touch with the “man in the street”. Lawyers and media people are over represented, bus drivers, shop keepers, dinner ladies etc etc etc (think up you own examples) are well under represented.

Far too many of them are career politicians and as such are intent on climbing the greasy pole rather being there to speak out for us.

We as the electorate have to accept our responsibility: far too many of us cannot be bothered to excerise our democratic right i.e. we do not vote.

Planemike

Mike.
Sorry, but I don’t agree. He was in a position of TRUST and Honour. No one expects them to be whiter than white, anymore than you or I.
He was part of a Team, and not only has he let himself down, but also his Team.
In prison at Taxpayers expense?.when they are as wealthy as he, they should, as part of their punishment, be made to pay for his keep in prison, even if he has to sell some of his assets.
As my old Mum used to say, “I would rather have a thief, than a liar”, and I also agree with that.
There are times in life when we have all told a “Little white lie” but not to the extent that this man has.
Let any member of this Forum, who has never told a lie in their lives, put their name down on here.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Sorry Derek but being very wealthy, they’d just pay the fine and forget it.
No, prison will hurt them more, and their supreme hubris does need dealing with.

Agree with Derekf, a fine would have been more than sufficient. Neither of them was any threat to society. We have far too many people in prison paid for at vast expense from our taxes. Sending folk to prison just enables them to come out more proficient criminals, probably not true of this pair though.

Think the humiliation of them both will ensure neither of them plans a repeat performance. I am sure they have learnt their lesson and to that extent are reformed characters. Think these two will not be reoffending. The law has been effective.

Planemike

There is a considerable financial penalty incurred by these two. The prosecution costs are estimated to be in excess of £100,000. I understand that the CPS will obtain an order to recover this amount.

John, this amount is sheer Peanuts to him, and many others of his ilk.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Bob, I agree, as my reply to Trumper stated, I think a lot of replies on here forget the Expences scandle NOT all that long ago either. Politicians are very well versed in lieing, and it’s only when they get caught, (Even then, they continue to lie) and it takes time, effort,and our money to get them to Justice.

I have given evidence in more Courts than I could even possibly remember, and believe me Barristers are in the same league as M.Ps. I distinctly remember one case, in Court, when we had a break, for the defendant to “Refresh his memory” in other words, to have words with his brief.
There is a room in all Courts for this sort of thing. I remember we, the Prosecution and I were in this room, when Both the defence and prosecution Barristers had a chat.I was totally shocked to hear them agree to plea bargening for the defendant It was agreed between them, that the defence Brief would “Lose” this particular case, but he expected that he would “Win” the next time both Barristers came up against each other.
I told our Barrister, that this was Perverting the course of Justice, and he just laughed and said it goes on all the time, behind the scenes.
This is not a made up story, it’s the truth.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

Yes, me as dictator.
The firing squads would work 24/7 for the first six months.

I remember more years ago than I care to remermber being invited to write a paper on “benevolent dictatorship” as the best form of rule. The problem is that benevolence will almost always turn into malevolence and history tells us where that leads.

No system works perfectly – of course! But I cannot join in the genrral forum anti-politician hysteria. In fact the majority get on with their jobs without fuss or publicity and in fact represent their constituents responsibly and well.

There is a considerable financial penalty incurred by these two. The prosecution costs are estimated to be in excess of £100,000. I understand that the CPS will obtain an order to recover this amount.