December 28, 2004 at 4:21 pm
Hi all,
I have spent some time today in the archive of this forum and enjoyed the many threads about scrapyards in the sixties, seventies and eighties. And the photo’s posted (by Mark 12 and 682al, to name but a view) showing Spitfire, Typhoon and Lancaster remains are extremely interesting. Also the photo’s posted by Cestrian were very intriguing.
Any more where that came from?
Cheers
Cees
By: Arm Waver - 9th January 2009 at 12:12
Apols for the delay.
vm thanks for the info, I’ll call them to get a copy.
brgds
Alan
Hi Alan,
Apols too for taking so long – too many senior moments!
Did you get a copy?
Looking at the book the recovery was actually of AB824/RF-S.
There is a picture of RS-T in a field though on the page after the one carrying the illustration above.
It states:
Pilot Officer McLeod’s Spitfire V AA722 has its 234 Squadron markings AZ and code B coloured in Sky which matches the spinner and fuselage band. The serial is painted aft of the Sky fuselage band just above the tailplane. The middle aircraft is UZ-A of 306 Squadronand carries light grey codes, the serial of this aircraft is not visible. The third aircraft is the one flown by Wing Commander Stanford Tuck whose kill markings can be seen on the starboard cowling.The codes of this machine are RS-T and appear to be in Sky.Tuck was not shot down in this machine during the Channel Dash, having already been in captivity for 15 daysby the time of ‘Operation Fuller’. On January 28 1942, Tuck left Biggin Hill with a Canadian pilot, Flying Officer Harley, as his wing-man. Attacking targets of opportunity as they skimmed across the French countryside at low level, the two SPitfires were caught in the cross-fire of the defences around Boulogne. Tuck’s machine was hit several times and the ace, with 29 confirmed victories to his credit, crash-landed to captivity. Overleaf Tuck’s Spitfire where it came to rest,thje shattered wooden propeller and 29 kill markings being clearly visible.
Taken from “In Enemy Hands” by Bryan Philpott ISBBN 0 85059 499 5 page 9
By: battle_damaged - 28th December 2008 at 00:07
Alan,
The book is listed here about 10th book down.
Hope that helps.
ATVB & happy Chrimbo
G
Apols for the delay.
vm thanks for the info, I’ll call them to get a copy.
brgds
Alan
By: battle_damaged - 24th December 2008 at 22:39
At the same airbase, in 1991, a number of MiG-21U (two-seaters) were scrapped. The useful components were collected and catalogued, although I was told they, too, would be disposed of, whereupon a certain number found their way into a certain Mazda…!;)
By: battle_damaged - 24th December 2008 at 21:59
One of the bases in East Germany I visited in November 1990 was Rothenburg, with MiG-21 and L-39 aircraft. I was shown a fuselage, located in a wooded area at the time, that had been provided as crew recreation, because there was nothing of the sort in the hangars. It turned out to be hull no. 11 of the cancelled Baade 152 project. I took the shot of the interior at the time, and a year or so later, when it had been moved some 200m away to await disposal. I believe it is now preserved at Dresden Airport. Thought it might be of interest.
Festive Greetings,
Alan
By: battle_damaged - 19th December 2008 at 20:14
I don’t get an image when I hit that.
The centre Spitfire UZ-A may be P8524 but I am sure ‘Voy Tech’ will confirm when he returns to the forum next week.
Mark
Hmm, strange, I do. Try googling for spitfire uz-a and you’ll find the book in the 7th offering.
Alan
By: Arm Waver - 19th December 2008 at 20:13
I’d love to get hold of a copy, …..
Alan,
The book is listed here about 10th book down.
Hope that helps.
ATVB & happy Chrimbo
G
By: Mark12 - 19th December 2008 at 19:40
Googling for UZ-A I found this…
(Osprey 9 Fw190 Aces of the Western Front, with the very same photo included).
I don’t get an image when I hit that.
The centre Spitfire UZ-A may be P8524 but I am sure ‘Voy Tech’ will confirm when he returns to the forum next week.
Mark
By: battle_damaged - 19th December 2008 at 19:31
Googling for UZ-A I found this…
(Osprey 9 Fw190 Aces of the Western Front, with the very same photo included).
By: adrian_gray - 19th December 2008 at 19:14
Third aircraft back is I think RS-T of ‘Bob’ Stanford-Tuck.
I realise that to a certain extent it’s your job/life’s work, and I’m being spectacularly rude asking this, but… is there anything you don’t know about Spitfires? :confused:
Adrian
(who would give his eye teeth just to know what Mark 12 has forgotten)
By: battle_damaged - 19th December 2008 at 19:13
Further to the info earlier a quick call to the old man (it is his copy of the book) RS-T is the 3rd Spitfire and UZ-A is the middle one although no serial is given. The photo is believed to be taken around the 12 Feb 1942 and in Belgium. I hope that helps.
I will have a scan through the book next time I’m there (in about a fortnight).
I’d love to get hold of a copy, and thanks for the info. I remember PSL as the original publishers of Action Stations, but they seem to have disappeared into Haynes, who don’t list the title. There are also at least two other books available with that title.
I look forward to hearing more from you as and when.
brgds
Alan
By: Arm Waver - 19th December 2008 at 18:44
Further to the info earlier a quick call to the old man (it is his copy of the book) RS-T is the 3rd Spitfire and UZ-A is the middle one although no serial is given. The photo is believed to be taken around the 12 Feb 1942 and in Belgium. I hope that helps.
I will have a scan through the book next time I’m there (in about a fortnight).
By: Cees Broere - 19th December 2008 at 18:23
These pics are fascinating to look at but every wreck has it’s own tragedy to tell. Probably were collected at the various zerlegebetriebs in France and by train to Germany to be melted down.
Keep them coming.
Cheers
Cees
By: Arm Waver - 19th December 2008 at 18:20
Spitfires ‘somewhere in Germany’. ….
I think this image and a number of others of such images apear in a PSL book “In Enemy Hands” IIRC.
EDIT:
The book also features the recovery of Tuck’s Spitfire IIRC but could be wrong as not looked at the book for ages.
By: battle_damaged - 19th December 2008 at 17:10
Third aircraft back is I think RS-T of ‘Bob’ Stanford-Tuck.
Mark
Fantastic! great stuff Mark. Then it’s possibly BL336, and perhaps ‘somewhere in France….’ too.
grateful,
Alan
By: Mark12 - 19th December 2008 at 16:09
Third aircraft back is I think RS-T of ‘Bob’ Stanford-Tuck.
Mark
By: battle_damaged - 19th December 2008 at 15:59
Spitfires ‘somewhere in Germany’. The one in the foreground AZ-B seems to have been well-known enough for Phoenix-Art to do two views of it (http://www.phoenix-art.co.uk/spitfire%20v%20page.htm). The serial is stencilled on the tailplane just behind the fuselage band. I can read 722, and I guess it is AB722.
The middle one seems to be UZ-A, and the third is difficult to decipher for sure (DO-T??). Of interest are the 19 (sorry – 29) Swastikas on the cowling.
The buildings bear numbers 501 and 506.
I’d give my backteeth to know where it was.
By: battle_damaged - 19th December 2008 at 15:47
The Sea Fury T.20 WE825 at Redfields Tobacco Farm Church Crookham around 1964. It bears the instructional airframe no. A2372. From here it went to Lasham and was scrapped in 1972 (photo courtesy Bob Ruffle):
By: Arabella-Cox - 15th December 2008 at 15:38
Hard to tell at that distance, but it certainly looks to be a darker hue.
By: pagen01 - 15th December 2008 at 15:20
Agreed, that was too quick a response from me! CC Lancs didn’t have uper turrets and had grey tops! I was looking at the grey fusalage beyond, possibly CC Lanc?
By: Arabella-Cox - 15th December 2008 at 15:06
Look like ex Coastal Command Lancs, again! A sad sight.
I’d suggest that the nearest is actually a B I (FE), the clue being retention of the FN50/150 mid upper turret. If the photo was taken in 1958, it had probably lain there for some years.
I agree with your sentiment, though!