Scrapyard Photos; Any More?

The location is with 99.9% certainty the southern part of Copenhagen-Kastrup. The buildings in the background are still there – or were there until very recently.

Oh Blohm und Voss it, you win Kenneth! Will duly add 99.9% to reverse of photo.

But what’s the ‘Anson/Siebel/KZ etc’ in the background?

Dag

Alan

Nice geodetic fence!

A vehicle scrap yard in Marrakech: July 1976.

Mark

I’m happy to revise the location, however my photo came from a usually impeccable source and I was going by his note on the back.

The location is with 99.9% certainty the southern part of Copenhagen-Kastrup. The buildings in the background are still there – or were there until very recently.

These are the remains of a hapless Islander found in October 2000 in Laayoune, Spanish Sahara. Apparently the BN-2 had been impounded for smuggling.

The Swedish aircraft in post 762 is indeed a FFVS J 22 fighter. The photo has been published in various Swedish mags, with the location given as ‘Denmark, 1945’, not RAF Sylt.

The J 22 was flown by the Commander-in-Chief of Flygvapnet, Gen Bengt Nordenskiöld. He had been invited to this particular event by the RAF which occured in June or July 1945. The smoke seen in the background emanates from former Luftwaffe Bv 138 flying boats used for target practice.

Regards,

Jan

Thanks Jan,

I’m happy to revise the location, however my photo came from a usually impeccable source and I was going by his note on the back. I’ll give him a buzz bye the bye and see if he remembers:).

cheers
Alan

Photo of Swedish J 22 fighter

The Swedish aircraft in post 762 is indeed a FFVS J 22 fighter. The photo has been published in various Swedish mags, with the location given as ‘Denmark, 1945’, not RAF Sylt.

The J 22 was flown by the Commander-in-Chief of Flygvapnet, Gen Bengt Nordenskiöld. He had been invited to this particular event by the RAF which occured in June or July 1945. The smoke seen in the background emanates from former Luftwaffe Bv 138 flying boats used for target practice.

Regards,

Jan

Back in February there were reports about the Harvards at Sandhurst (village, not Army College), and I have received Bob Ruffle’s permission to provide these photos of three of them, taken in 1956:

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Alan

RAF Sylt 1945

Thanks for that, AJ.

I’m looking at the 110 in the Nowarra series of books, and I think that to be a 110, our plane would have to slope more steeply to the rear. If what may be Liechtenstein are on a 110 then they would be FuG220, with a FuG 202 inside it, but then I think the photo, however poor, would show more, wouldn’t it? If it’s a 110, and the long nose a bowser or similar, wouldn’t one see the props more prominently? Big paddles, weren’t they? I don’t see any, to be truthful.

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Alan

The aeroplane by the hangar door is too stumpy to be a JU88 and the nose and canopy lines look like classic early Anson to me. Its undercarriage is too far forward to be JU88, and it squats like an Anson.

Cheers,
Matt

It looks to me like it could be a Bf110, which could explain the apparent Lichtenstein installation.

G-ARHX

Thanks Jon and Scotty. Good news indeed!

Here’s one that definitely didn’t survive…

CF-FCY (Lome Airways Limited), once G-AKCA and TS905, at Stansted in about 1958 (Good Lord, a half a century ago…!). I was studying those parked at Southend around then:

She lives

And while we are pondering it, here are two more pics but much more sober. I must have taken them in the 70’s when visiting my brother in Enfield. The legend on the Ford says ’85 (Southgate) Squadron Air Training Corps’. Did this one survive, looks too good to not have…

At NEAM if I am not mistaken….. Is she still being restored, or is she on display?

Scotty

And while we are pondering it, here are two more pics but much more sober. I must have taken them in the 70’s when visiting my brother in Enfield. The legend on the Ford says ’85 (Southgate) Squadron Air Training Corps’. Did this one survive, looks too good to not have…

cheers
Alan

It does indeed – http://www.neam.org.uk/Exhibits/History/GARHX.htm

In fact should have some pictures somewhere from when I visited a month or two back…..

Jon

RAF Sylt 1945

Pretty cool recognition, Airart! Perhaps it was a Swedish/British inspection team, the Brits having turned up in the Anson…..:)

And, Frazer Nash, to have spotted the people on the hangar roof requires 8/8 sight, well done!

In fact, I’ve just been out to get new batteries for my magnifying glass, but that Anson still defies my weak attempts at recognition. I think what is misleading us is that what seems to be an elongated nose is in fact a bowser or somesuch behind it towards the hangar. It might even be a three-engined job, and I’m not even suggesting a Tante-Ju! For some niggling reason it seems to say to me, I’m French, and look like a Cessna Bobcat, and the two whiskers, vertical but not parallel, belong to something else behind me…

And while we are pondering it, here are two more pics but much more sober. I must have taken them in the 70’s when visiting my brother in Enfield. The legend on the Ford says ’85 (Southgate) Squadron Air Training Corps’. Did this one survive, looks too good to not have…

cheers
Alan

Thanks Dave,

Here’s one of RAF Sylt taken in 1945. I’ve tweaked it all I can and hope some things are recognizable. Seems to be a JU88R (coded S) under inspection, the Liechtenstein can be seen in the original shot. Behind, an Auster coded 9 and the aircraft to the right with a G on the tail also has an 8 on the fuselage behing a large white circle. The airfield is littered (in the nicest way) with Tempests or Typhoons, with one in the circuit. There also seems to be a detonation in the background.

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Alan

It looks like everyone standing on the Ju88 and the hangar roof are all looking over at the ‘detonation’, so there’s every chance it was something loud and entertaining!

Seeing the question above about Orfordness brings to mind another place that had a number of wrecks I’ve nnever seen either pictures or Identities for…..

This was Larkhill…I went to a couple of open days there around about 1970- there was always some live firing at these events at targets some distance away on the downs – .

The targets were derilect tanks/trucks and some aircraft.

I can’t remember what types offhand (logbooks in loft) but wonder if anyone has any ideas or even photos of what was in use there at that time?

The Swedish aircraft is not a J 17 but a J 22, of F8. The code letter (G in this case) was red, outlined in white, and was repeated on the engine cowling.

Would be interesting to find out what this J 22 was doing at RAF Sylt.

RJ Caruana

The aeroplane by the hangar door is too stumpy to be a JU88 and the nose and canopy lines look like classic early Anson to me. Its undercarriage is too far forward to be JU88, and it squats like an Anson.

Cheers,
Matt

RAF Sylt 1945

Thanks for your various comments about the aircraft in the photo!

Please disregard the code on the Auster, I was mistaken, but there seems to be a serial in white behind the roundel.

The aircraft coded G/8 could very well be Swedish, perhaps a Saab B17…. however the edge of the photo goes straight through the roundel. The ‘Anson’ above it seems to sprout Liechtenstein, but it’s surmise. Probably another JU88. Good try though.
The people on the JU88 actually seem to be watching the explosion…

Can’t say much more than that I’m afraid.

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Alan

Orfordness

No photos, but from this query some may surface!
As a boy of some 7 to 9 years in the early 1950s I lived in Orford in Suffolk. My father worked on Orfordness for the RAE. I went over a few times with him when he went shooting. One of my enduring memories of those trips is seeing the aircraft wrecks lying in a disorganised pile.
Having said that I have no idea what was on it but I do recall one wreck in a yellow based camo with german crosses (I think)
It’s a long shot I know, but does anyone know what was kept on this dump on Orfordness at this time? After all this time it would be good to know.