Scrapyard Photos; Any More?

Hi Peter,

Pictures I post here are generally from Flickr, where users post under creative commons 2.0 which means that non-profit use is permitted.

If the Flickr poster have posted the image without ownership, it would legally be his copyright infringement, as you can’t release under creative commons unless you own, or have rights, to the material.

Another fine photo site is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Here the media files are also mostly under creative commons or a lower classification.

How many wartime photos are given credit?
Not to the current owner, but to the actual photographer.

We could clear a large percentage of photos in this forum, if ever single photo needed credit to be posted.

But if thats the etiquette here, I will refrain from posting pictures, as I don’t really have any personal pictures that are usefull to historic aviation.
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Peter
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Etiquette, not copyright.

Credit where due, please.

Mark

I give credit when i have some to give. If I don’t know, then I can’t give it.

How many wartime photos are given credit?
Not to the current owner, but to the actual photographer.

We could clear a large percentage of photos in this forum, if ever single photo needed credit to be posted.

But if thats the etiquette here, I will refrain from posting pictures, as I don’t really have any personal pictures that are usefull to historic aviation.

When people post in a public forum (or on flickr where i seem to remember i got this) they are posted under common usage licens and reposting them does not constitutes copyright infringement, as long as they are not used for economical reasons (used in books ect).

Etiquette, not copyright.

Credit where due, please.

Mark

Mondariz,

Forum etiquette.

May I suggest that if you cannot remember where you got got them from, you don’t post them.

Mark

When people post in a public forum (or on flickr where i seem to remember i got this) they are posted under common usage licens and reposting them does not constitutes copyright infringement, as long as they are not used for economical reasons (used in books ect).

I’ve found a few more photos from Clayton Vale taken in late 1980.The first is of the ”other” Swift WK214 which was hidden around the back of the old mill.
The second is a shot of the famous pond with Balliol WG229 emerging from the depths.

Might be your pic (i like it and cant always remember where i get them from, but it had no description):diablo:

There was a few other pics where i found it. Some showed other AC parts strewn across a field, sorry MUSEUM.

I have some type of soviet AC standing in a field too (found same place i think), I will try to find it and post it.

Mondariz,

Forum etiquette.

May I suggest that if you cannot remember where you got got them from, you don’t post them.

Mark

Might be your pic (i like it and cant always remember where i get them from, but it had no description):diablo:

There was a few other pics where i found it. Some showed other AC parts strewn across a field, sorry MUSEUM.

I have some type of soviet AC standing in a field too (found same place i think), I will try to find it and post it.

Unknown location in China.

Chinese Air Museum outside. Beijing. Another one of those when is a museum a scrapyard type scenarios with the outside exhibits and the local weather.

That might actually be my photo! 😉

Unknown location in China.

Whilst on the subject of airport firemen’s playthings, does anyone have a photo of the Viking that used to get the fire and foam treatment at Gatwick in the late 1960s? I don’t have my notes to hand at present so I can’t say what it’s identity was. I’ll check and post again tomorrow – unless someone comes up with the info in the meantime.

Having found the notes, and blown the dust off them, it’s apparent that my notemaking of nearly forty years ago left much to be desired! However having identified the likely candidates and undertaken a modicum of cross referencing, I think that it must have been Viking 614 G-AHPE. Does anyone have a photo of that aeroplane, ideally in her days as the firemen’s plaything at Gatwick?

Fireman’s play things.

Even in 1960, when I took this shot at a RN Chatham open day, it bought a tear to my eye.

Fire demonstration Seafire XV, SR602.

Mark

Talk about firemen’s playthings…. At Zestienhoven, near Rotterdam, they had a rather unique fire training hulk during the sixties: a Martin PBM5A Mariner of the Dutch Navy: http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/database/aircraft/getimage.htm?id=13223

One year ago I did put up a question on the Rotterdam Airport forum if someone could provide a picture, but no answer so far.

Tillerman.

Gatwick Viking

Whilst on the subject of airport firemen’s playthings, does anyone have a photo of the Viking that used to get the fire and foam treatment at Gatwick in the late 1960s? I don’t have my notes to hand at present so I can’t say what it’s identity was. I’ll check and post again tomorrow – unless someone comes up with the info in the meantime.

Two out of three ain’t bad! Just the when, then!

Sorry, i think it was mid’ 1972. Given to airport fire service i believe.

Some photo’s Here.

Indeed ex-Fairey Surveys C-47A G-AHCT

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Two out of three ain’t bad! Just the when, then!

Avion – it looks very much like the Dakota that was on the fire dump at Manchester airport.

Indeed ex-Fairey Surveys C-47A G-AHCT

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Avion – it looks very much like the Dakota that was on the fire dump at Manchester airport.

Here’s another scrap aircraft from years back…

David

Identity, location, date – please!

Thanks for posting your pics, dsinnett. It’s always nostalgic to see pictures of the Clayton Vale yard, especially as I never remembered to take a camera with me on my occasional visits.

I remember the council estate behind the yard – it makes me think every local kid must have had his scrap souvenir. I wonder if any of it is still around?

Here’s a small item that survives. An early Shackleton panel. Me and my pal literally dug it out of the ground. I think we paid them £2 for it. It was in a pretty poor state, and the starboard half had been torn off. British Aerospace kindly made us a replacement panel (the whole thing comes in two halves) so it was just a matter of bolting it back together.