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The Great US Election Hamster-Wheel Thread (Merged)

Mainland Europe rejoices.

Large defense budget cuts. Big increases in social spending. Nationalized health care. Tax increase providing short term revenue increase, but longer term economic turmoil and increasing unemployment.

International agenda foresaken in favor of a domestic agenda. Allies confused and aggressors emboldened. Israel?

Strategic withdrawal from the Middle East.

I don’t see any way for the F-22, JSF, C-17, C-5 RERP, KC-45, and new UAV’s to all survive.

All just MHO.

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By: sferrin - 24th October 2008 at 20:39

So were the rest of W’s squadron also avoiding service in Vietnam by becoming fighter pilots, or was he the only one?

LOL!!! Well put. 🙂 Add to that list everybody on nuclear alert or members of ADC.

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By: wrightwing - 24th October 2008 at 19:54

W has no real experience of the military – just learning to fly F-102’s with the Texas ANG while avoiding the Vietnam war

So were the rest of W’s squadron also avoiding service in Vietnam by becoming fighter pilots, or was he the only one?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 24th October 2008 at 19:30

Well, I think I know a little about American Politics. Have you ever met Obama, McCain, or Bush………..I HAVE:D

Ah, so that means you know them better than anyone else now?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 24th October 2008 at 19:21

What don’t you get???

What exactly SHOULD I get?
You premise good presidental candidate by his previous military career, to me it’s making absolutely no sense. Why do you reqiure solely ex-soldiers to get the post is beyond me.

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By: bgnewf - 24th October 2008 at 18:12

Well, I think I know a little about American Politics. Have you ever met Obama, McCain, or Bush………..I HAVE:D

Good for you. I hope you gained insight from your extended discusions with your presidential candidates.

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By: glitter - 24th October 2008 at 17:15

Well, I think I know a little about American Politics.

Honestly, during the 2003 anti-french assault, I had quite some bloody discussions with some americans posters …. who knew zilch to they own history.

Have you ever met Obama, McCain, or Bush………..I HAVE:D

I shook Mr Chirac’s hands and it hasn’t changed my life.

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By: star49 - 24th October 2008 at 16:51

We have ****** all nation debt, we have a future fund for the nation full of money, and more employment will be created in the export industries of Mining, Farming, Vehicle manufacture, LNG shipping to china……. because the dollar is cheaper for people to buy. unlike america, consumer confidence has come back with the news of interest rate cuts.

whats the point of money if it becomes worthless? and that with 6% interest. imagine if it lowers to 1.5% like US. It will be currency collapse and with that all imported gas/food/autos/electroinics/airlines/weopons become more expensive. which already are by big margin. Australlia could never reach US standard of living in real sense. US have Mexico/Canada attached to it with largest trading parnters.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 24th October 2008 at 16:42

Not liking each other personally is beside the point. McCain intends to keep American forces in Iraq indefinitely chasing something called “victory”, whatever that means. That is a Bush policy. I thought it was creating a stable Iraqi government that can defend itself against insurgents and outside aggression. This looks like it is finally taking place as more provinces get handed back to the Iraqis themselves to administer. Iraq has a democratically elected government and Saddam is dead. Obama’s policy of finding reasonable timelines to leave makes a lot of sense to me.

Again I ask my American friends how can you let yourselves be hoodwinked by the same group (the GOP) that has violated your great nation’s principles, soured relations with virtually the entire planet and caused grevious harm to the economic engine of the world?

Do not let yourselves be distracted by Joe the Plumber, robo-calls, Obama’s middle name or gays getting married. This election is about the economy and America’s place in the world. If you feel that McCain is the man to restore these things by all means vote for him. But vote for him for the right reasons and not the wrong ones.

Well, I think I know a little about American Politics. Have you ever met Obama, McCain, or Bush………..I HAVE:D

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By: glitter - 24th October 2008 at 16:41

The point is do you want a amateur to be captain of your ship. Which, is about sail into a Hurricane. That has never command a ship let alone sailed in rough weather…..:eek:

Total bullsh*t
Do you really think that you must have work into agriculture before being an efficient minister of agriculture ?

I can remember of former french resistant who did a crappy job at french MoD.

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By: sferrin - 24th October 2008 at 16:25

BS he stopped showing up for drill. That is how he got out. He stopped showing up. His experience counts for less then nothing, it is a disgrace and abuse.

Everybody’s entitled to their opinions but flying an F-102 as a member of the armed services DOES count as military service.

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By: Entropy - 24th October 2008 at 16:18

I’ve never been of the opinion that having worn a uniform automatically qualifies one to be CinC. However flying an F-102 DOES qualify as military experience.

BS he stopped showing up for drill. That is how he got out. He stopped showing up. His experience counts for less then nothing, it is a disgrace and abuse.

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By: crobato - 24th October 2008 at 16:02

Which, is not her’s and will be sold for charity………..PLEASE! Just like the media its not what they tell you but what they don’t.:eek:

LOL. Not even many Republicans believe that. Its all going to be hers if she didn’t get caught.

Oh by the way, campaign expenditures are public you know.

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By: crobato - 24th October 2008 at 15:59

I guess when it says something you don’t like, its anti government. Ever heard of McCarthy?

Is the Central Intelligence Agency somehow anti (Australian) government?

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/as.html

Current account balance:
-$56.78 billion (2007 est.

Reserves of foreign exchange and gold:
$26.91 billion (31 December 2007 est.)

Debt – external:
$826.4 billion (31 December 2007)

Hello, that’s not very good. Compare to Singapore.

Reserves of foreign exchange and gold:
$163 billion (31 December 2007 est.)

Debt – external:
$25.59 billion (31 December 2007 est.)

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By: F-111buff26 - 24th October 2008 at 15:31

The reason for that is Australia is hitching its wagon on China.

Maybe you should ask yourself how much you know about your economy. You do have after all, debt more than half your GDP.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2006/s1804944.htm

what, a website refferring to a report from 2006, from an anti government news source?
Get real

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By: bgnewf - 24th October 2008 at 15:29

Bush and McCain are nothing a like…………..with all due respect. Just go back to the 2000 Primary Debates. They hardly can stand each other………just the Democratic Spin. Hoping to tie McCain with Bush. Nobody really believes it.;)

Not liking each other personally is beside the point. McCain intends to keep American forces in Iraq indefinitely chasing something called “victory”, whatever that means. That is a Bush policy. I thought it was creating a stable Iraqi government that can defend itself against insurgents and outside aggression. This looks like it is finally taking place as more provinces get handed back to the Iraqis themselves to administer. Iraq has a democratically elected government and Saddam is dead. Obama’s policy of finding reasonable timelines to leave makes a lot of sense to me.

Again I ask my American friends how can you let yourselves be hoodwinked by the same group (the GOP) that has violated your great nation’s principles, soured relations with virtually the entire planet and caused grevious harm to the economic engine of the world?

Do not let yourselves be distracted by Joe the Plumber, robo-calls, Obama’s middle name or gays getting married. This election is about the economy and America’s place in the world. If you feel that McCain is the man to restore these things by all means vote for him. But vote for him for the right reasons and not the wrong ones.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 24th October 2008 at 14:58

With all due respect, the way Bush has used and abused the American Military speaks of a man who does not know the true burden of command. Flying a Delta Dagger around the Texas panhandle to keep himself out of the paddies of South-East Asia does not in my opinion qualify as command. Lincoln and FDR, arguably the two greatest American wartime Presidents, never served a day of their lives in uniform.

McCain intends to carry on many of the failed Bush policies. And exactly what does “victory” in Iraq mean anyway?

Bush and McCain are nothing a like…………..with all do respect. Just go back to the 2000 Primary Debates. They hardly can stand each other………just the Democratic Spin. Hoping to tie McCain with Bush. Nobody really believes it.;)

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By: sferrin - 24th October 2008 at 14:51

With all due respect, the way Bush has used and abused the American Military speaks of a man who does not know the true burden of command. Flying a Delta Dagger around the Texas panhandle to keep himself out of the paddies of South-East Asia does not in my opinion qualify as command. Lincoln and FDR, arguably the two greatest American wartime Presidents, never served a day of their lives in uniform.

McCain intends to carry on many of the failed Bush policies. And exactly what does “victory” in Iraq mean anyway?

I’ve never been of the opinion that having worn a uniform automatically qualifies one to be CinC. However flying an F-102 DOES qualify as military experience.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 24th October 2008 at 14:43

I get fun thinking about Sarah Palin saying she’s sympathizes with Joe the Plumber and the Middle Class while wearing her four figure dollars dresses from Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue.

Which, is not her’s and will be sold for charity………..PLEASE! Just like the media its not what they tell you but what they don’t.:eek:

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By: bgnewf - 24th October 2008 at 14:32

What a retarded statement. I suppose you’d think he’d have had more military experience if he were flipping burgers on an SSBN? :rolleyes:

With all due respect, the way Bush has used and abused the American Military speaks of a man who does not know the true burden of command. Flying a Delta Dagger around the Texas panhandle to keep himself out of the paddies of South-East Asia does not in my opinion qualify as command. Lincoln and FDR, arguably the two greatest American wartime Presidents, never served a day of their lives in uniform.

McCain intends to carry on many of the failed Bush policies. And exactly what does “victory” in Iraq mean anyway?

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By: sferrin - 24th October 2008 at 14:16

W has no real experience of the military – just learning to fly F-102’s with the Texas ANG while avoiding the Vietnam war

What a retarded statement. I suppose you’d think he’d have had more military experience if he were flipping burgers on an SSBN? :rolleyes:

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