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To-day is the day, Nigel beckons

If not for Queen & Country then, for country, your family and yourself. The ‘fruitcakes’, ‘closet rascists’ and ‘loonies’ deserve to have a go at running the country – ultimately.

They cannot be worse than the bunch now running things with Red Ed waiting in the wings. I can’t wait to hear Dave C’s comments when Nigel romps home. Word has it that Nigel even likes grammar schools ! That’s a bit radical.

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By: charliehunt - 26th May 2014 at 12:05

Whilst that last sentence is undeniably true it is of course also true that if enough people vote Labour we’ll get a Labour government and if enough vote Tory a Tory government. The only difference being that a smallish swing to either will produce a mainstream majority but a seismic shift of millions will be needed for a UKIP government.

And I reckon I am more realist than pessimist, John.

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By: John Green - 26th May 2014 at 11:42

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Why shouldn’t he listen to the ‘grumblings of the racists and xenophobes’ ? Should their concerns be of no concern ? A goodly number of this nation are rightly concerned about uncontrolled immigration and like the ‘entitled metropolitain elite’ you think that they shouldn’t voice their fears ?

You are too intelligent not to know that David Cameron cannot be trusted on a number of voter concerns. From grammar schools to the EU and all points between, David Cameron is not trusted by the people. That is a major problem for the Conservative Party, of whom, I have been a supporter for fifty years.

I do share your opinion of ‘Milliband’s crew and another economic disaster’.

Permit me to point you in the direction of some ‘clear thinking’. Campaign for UKIP. Set aside your suspicions regarding the absence of detailed UKIP policies. Concentrate on what is at stake; the removal of this country from the control of the EU and the restoration of its independence and sovereignty. For this, in past centuries, my family and those of millions of others gave generously of their blood. They are betrayed by our status of serfs in the EU.

I’ll write it again. If enough of us vote for UKIP they will be able to form a Government.

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By: John Green - 26th May 2014 at 11:16

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Charlie, I won’t accuse you of being a realist, I’ll accuse you of being a pessimist. For UKIP this could be a beginning. These results might be the foundation to build on. On the other hand, they might not. Let us see how things develop.

Let us not be too quick to dismiss. UKIP’s promise to deliver us from the strangulation of the EU makes them deserving of all right thinking people’s support.

My colours are nailed firmly to their mast. If they’ll have me, I will stand as a candidate next year. All my family and extended family support them financially.

Think ‘acorns’. Think Tesco: “Every little helps”

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By: Moggy C - 26th May 2014 at 10:43

well why didn’t he listen in the first place :apologetic:

Listen to what? The grumblings of the racists and xenophobes? Let’s hope it never comes to that.

On the EU, he’s committed to renegotiation and an in/out referendum. Isn’t that what most of us wish for?

If UKIP split the vote next year and Milliband’s crew get in, not only will we have yet another economic disaster building, but no chance of a referendum.

Time for some clear thinking.

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By: trumper - 26th May 2014 at 10:28

It goes deeper than that.People have a feeling of not having a choice -all the parties are seemingly the same,non of them live/represent in the real world and politicians are seen as fiddling snout in the trough pigs.
No wonder people don’t bother voting.

Listening to Cameron on the radio saying we now know what we need to do to win the lottery–well why didn’t he listen in the first place :apologetic: why should we want them to win the election.They are already thinking about what they need to do to win,not what people want them to do.

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By: Derekf - 26th May 2014 at 10:08

Indeed. It may be a lot less of an issue than Farage and (sorry I can’t think of any other UKIP people) might think. The UK population are probably more interested in issues like unemployment, the economy, the environment, law and order, defence, etc. in which UKIP have shown an almost total disinterest.

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By: bazv - 26th May 2014 at 10:02

To be fair though – the low turn out merely signifies how much interest many people have in the EU !

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By: Derekf - 26th May 2014 at 09:58

At the moment the BBC is giving UKIP vote as 27.5% of a 34.19% turnout which I reckon means 9.4% of the electorate voted UKIP. The turnout is a bigger concern and how anyone can take any comfort from the fact the 2/3rds didn’t even vote. Farage may think that he is reflecting what the British people think but when only a 1/3rd bother to vote then that claim sounds very hollow.

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By: charliehunt - 26th May 2014 at 09:41

Totally agree – they are effectively a two policy protest party as will, I suspect, be evident next year.

And a minor amendment to your figure for turnout which was actually 36% not that it is a significant difference. And only just over 43% across the whole of the EU.

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By: Derekf - 26th May 2014 at 09:33

Perhaps when the dust settles after this “earthquake” then UKIP can be questioned about policies other then the EU or immigration. That should prove interesting. Their last manifesto looked as if it had been taken from a 12-year-old’s “When I’m Prime Minister” assignment.

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By: charliehunt - 26th May 2014 at 09:06

So now we know.

34% of the electorate voted and of those 30% voted UKIP. That’s about 10% of the electorate. Earthquake? I don’t think so. Kick in the goolies for the mainstream parties – probably yes. But with two thirds of the country not bothered enough to vote in elections for a non-democratic cabal I doubt it will matter much in a year’s time. However if this was the result next May with a 65%+ turnout, then that really would be an earthquake!! But even Farage himself is talking down that prospect. “The UK Independence Party is hopeful of winning only a handful of seats in the general election next year despite its “breakthrough moment” in the European elections.”. So a sense of perspective is called for.

And I speak as a deeply anti-EU federalist, aware that leaching votes to UKIP in the serious election, the one that really matters, will not help the cause.

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By: John Green - 25th May 2014 at 19:42

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Paul

I would guess that anything remotely edible or pocketable in Westminster is very quickly ‘troughed’ or ‘trousered’ !

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By: paul178 - 25th May 2014 at 18:06

Are there any acorns in Westminster then or are the pigs still fed money in troughs?

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By: John Green - 25th May 2014 at 15:24

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Patience is a virtue. It’s always darkest just before dawn !

Acorns always grow into oaks unless there are pigs nibbling in the area. There’s a metaphor there somewhere.

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By: Moggy C - 25th May 2014 at 11:46

Scoffers all ! Remember ‘acorns and oaks’.

Yes, but aren’t acorns supposed to grow into oaks? With 22% of the votes in local elections in 2013 and now with 17% this time, isn’t that a bit un-oak like?

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By: TonyT - 25th May 2014 at 11:09

I wonder if it will effect the Jewish vote for Milliband, not exactly what they will want to see is him munching on a bacon sarnie.

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By: paul178 - 24th May 2014 at 20:48

Kosher Bacon? Must try that!

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By: j_jza80 - 24th May 2014 at 20:24

While we’re on the subject of political humour… 😀

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By: charliehunt - 24th May 2014 at 20:06

Quite right. The last few weeks have been very amusing and not least at the pens of assorted newspaper cartoonists. Some brilliant examples!;)

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By: John Green - 24th May 2014 at 19:35

Chaps, lighten up ! Politics is not ever to be taken seriously.

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