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When will THEY listen to US??

I saw on the News last night, some Pillock in Westminster has given the Elderly,some advice, as to how to keep warm this Winter and who are worried about the hike in gas and leccy prices, to put layers of clothing on, live in ONE room, and put the heating on at night.
Why don’t they cut some of the taxes they impose on the Utility bills, and hammer the suppliers, and sod the shareholders.
Just what Planet do they live on?.
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By: Lincoln 7 - 28th October 2013 at 08:42

So this Government is quite prepared to sit on it.s 6, whilst Rome burns, sounds familiar.
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By: charliehunt - 28th October 2013 at 08:38

Unless the fantastical commitment to emission reduction is revoked we cannot burn coal – that’s why we are up sh**t -creek without a paddle, so working out old mines is irrelevant.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 28th October 2013 at 08:32

Importing it doesn’t seem to make sense but how much of our coal do we import these days?

Whilst I can’t quote figures, we import coal from Aus, and Germany, Remember all the U.K. Mines that were closed, supposidly because they were not economical to carry on?, however Management buyouts made them Productive, so why not pump the water out of these closed Mines, at least it would help, even of only by a smidgeon?.Or is that too simple.
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By: paul178 - 28th October 2013 at 02:12

This article might interest you.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/170721/et_article_coal_in_2012.pdf

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By: Creaking Door - 28th October 2013 at 00:16

No, I agree, it is more about the power companies meeting a ‘renewables’ quota than actually attempting to replace any meaningful percentage of coal or gas in the power-stations. Importing it doesn’t seem to make sense but how much of our coal do we import these days?

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By: silver fox - 27th October 2013 at 22:41

Many of our former coal-fired power-stations are using a percentage of waste ‘wood-chippings’ as part of their commitment to renewable energy!

That’s the story, the reality is, Drax for instance is set to import millions of tons of pelleted wood from the the USA, this wood is from timber felled only for this purpose, the greenies would have us believe that this process is carbon neutral, because they claim that the felled areas will all be replanted and the growing trees will reabsorb all the carbon released by burning this wood.

Curiously the pelleting process and transportation of this wood must somehow not require any energy which involves releasing carbon, equally in the areas where this tree felling is to take place environmentalists are not best pleased by the destruction of old woodlands which have only survived because the trees left were not suitable for other uses.

We couldn’t grow enough wood on this island to supply Drax on it’s own and that would mean using every scrap of timber produced, not just the offcuts, the shredded wood from contractors may be used in power stations, but will certainly not keep the furnaces lit.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 27th October 2013 at 14:29

S’funny you should mention that Warren, last week the Council were cutting tree branches, and putting the cut branches into the largest shredder I have ever seen, it was all going to be sold to some Power Company, but none of the workers knew who.

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By: Creaking Door - 27th October 2013 at 13:21

Ah Well, back to chopping the woodlands and Forests down to keep warm then…

Many of our former coal-fired power-stations are using a percentage of waste ‘wood-chippings’ as part of their commitment to renewable energy!

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By: Lincoln 7 - 27th October 2013 at 11:17

It used to be used in loft insulation, and cold/hot water pipes in the house, thus keeping it insulated.
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By: charliehunt - 27th October 2013 at 11:08

Yes, you are right about his contribution to the asbestos scare story.
Although what that and his other views have to do with the current energy crisis I am not sure.

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By: John Green - 27th October 2013 at 10:37

I’m pretty certain that Christopher Booker’s comments on the subject of asbestos related lung disease, was aimed at separating the injurious ‘blue’ variety from the non injurious and much more common ‘white’ for which asbestos contractors were charging extortionate sums os money for its removal.

It appears that certain Govt. Health Agencies and private contractors had elected for reasons unknown, not to separate the two. So scare mongering proceeded to part the many from not only their cash but to remove by demolition, buildings that were perfectly safe and fit for human habitation.

As for ‘intelligent design’, it’s every bit as good as the ‘big bang’ – now written in stone or, ‘we came out of Africa’ which after repeating the mantra five thousand times now has the cloak of law not theory.

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By: Moggy C - 27th October 2013 at 10:20

The latest from Booker puts flesh on what we have been discussing.

I’m not sure what ‘flesh’ is added by a lengthy quote from Booker, a man who doesn’t believe smoking or asbestos to be injurious to health and who supports ‘intelligent design’ (code for ‘God’) as the mechanism for us all being here as opposed to evolution.

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By: charliehunt - 27th October 2013 at 09:29

;);)!!

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By: Lincoln 7 - 27th October 2013 at 09:25

Hmmmm, I will claim the 5th on that……..:)

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By: charliehunt - 27th October 2013 at 09:11

Aw shucks – we don’t often disagree do we?

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By: Lincoln 7 - 27th October 2013 at 09:05

For once I agree with your comments Chas……”Q” snafu.
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By: charliehunt - 27th October 2013 at 09:02

The latest from Booker puts flesh on what we have been discussing.

The Govermment’s central aim is twofold. Firstly to build by 2020 some 30,000 windturbines so ludicrously expensive that we must pay double or treble the market rate for the power they produce and secondly to make this seem competitive, we should also eventually be made to pay twice the going rate for all other forms of electricity: hence the “carbon tax” on coal and gas, and the colossal price we are to pay for power from Hinkley Point and other new nuclear power stations (four times the cost of nuclear, estimated by a Royal Academy of Engineering study only nine years ago).
That is why our energy companies pathetically try to explain that a third of the increased costs driving their latest price rises are made inevitable by the various levies we must pay directly for those “green” policies, such as the hidden subsidies being showered on the owners of our ever-growing number of wind farms and acres of solar panels.
Another third represents what we must pay for the thousands of miles of cabling needed to connect those “renewables” to the grid (which Ofgem estimated might, by 2020, cost us another £40 billion) — along with other measures needed to counteract the unbalancing of the grid by the intermittency of “renewables”, such as hiring those thousands of diesel generators to provide back-up, which makes a further mockery of the “de-carbonisation” policy mandated by the Climate Change Act that Mr Cameron was so keen on.
The truth is that we are being brought face to face with the utter absurdity of everything this Government’s bizarre ragbag of policies has been trying to achieve. For Mr Cameron to blame all this on Mr Miliband only shows that the fuses in his brain have at last begun to blow. By mindlessly going along with all this nonsense, it is our entire political class that has created this shambles. It is the rest of us, alas, who must now live with the consequences.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 27th October 2013 at 08:50

Exactly Chas, now you see the reason I submitted this Post. When they get their finger out of their 6, it will be too late, and that’s just another reason for cutting down on the 650 of them, two people can’t agree on most things, so how can we expect 650 to?.
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By: charliehunt - 27th October 2013 at 08:43

Then at least you have grasped the seriousness of the situation unlike most of the populace, most of media and 99% of the MPs.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 27th October 2013 at 08:33

No, Deadly serious.
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