Why Do We Shun Jets!!!

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Happy to say I like jets too,

James,

I have just returned from my peddling ‘constitutional’ along the highways and byways of North Bucks. I espied a number plate on a hot Honda and thought of you – ‘B1 JDK’. Even Boeing/NA Rockwell’s finest will be historic one day. 😉

Shall I make him an offer if I see it again?

Mark

Mid 1955

. 10 years after the war there were possibly two airworthy Hurricanes and Ten airworthy Spitfires in the whole world.

OK Mike – mid 1955 – shoot with your ten airworthy Spitfires. 🙂

Mark

heres one from last years kemble show…looking forward to june 20th!!

coanda

I would love to see one Vulcan flying rather than a squadron of spits!
Jets are good only as long as they have lots of smoke coming out the back. 😀 WW2 warbirds will always get the headlines. But for those of us of the age that Lightnings,Buccs,Vulcans etc were the staple diet of airshows of our youth these types will always be important.
I wonder what will happern to attitudes in 20 years time when sadly almost all the WW2 vetrans will have passed on? For me the 50’s would have been the most exciting time to have been about in. Loads off WW” aircraft still about along with those new fangled jets.

Not totally correct. 10 years after the war there were possibly two airworthy Hurricanes and Ten airworthy Spitfires in the whole world. Today there are more than that in this country alone so things have made some progress.

F-16s, definitely not. Still considering Waddo this year but not if there’s as little variation as in previous years.

“I sincerely doubt that even the most die hard warbird enthusiast fails to be impressed by the raw power and agility of an F-16 or Eurofighter display”

F-16 – count me out. The triumph of CAD computing over design, human beings, style grace… I can’t go on.

Mildenhall with display after display by various F-16s – all basically a lot of testotorone and the plane doing all the work… Gah. Dull. No, Seen ’em in museums, but the could scrap the lot…

At least the Tornado was rather cr@p at first. But the Eurofighter? And the ‘Stealth Fighter’ – apart from the fact it’s a bomber, not a fighter, it’s SOO ugly even I won’t like it (and that’s saying a lot.)

Still, each to their own. I do agree that you don’t realise what you’ve got ’till it’s gone!

Cheers

Tack, Kenneth, men åtminstone hade jag skäl att visa en av mina bilder, även om jag nu skäms!

Man måsta inta skäms för et Viggen-Foto 🙂

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Anyway, back to the original topic…:

When I started going to airshows more than 20 years ago I was only interested in vintage aircraft, mostly warbirds and vintage light aircraft. What I could afford in terms of film back then was spent almost exclusively on these aircraft, with little attention being paid to what was around in terms of jets. Going to the airport just to have a look at airliners never occured to me. When I look through these photos today I notice that most of the vintage aircraft I paid so much attention back then are almost all still with us. Gone, however, are the RDanAF F-100’s, F-104G’s and Drakens, the USAFE F-111’s, RAF Buccaneers, Swiss AF Mirage III and Belgian AF Mirage 5, to name a few. I never bothered to travel to an air show to see a Vulcan or an SR-71, and have only seen a Concorde in flight once. I can’t remember the last time I saw a DC-8 or a DC-10. Now I look at these things differently: I try to see, take in and enjoy as many aircraft as I can today. One day they’ll be gone and then it’s too late. I recently waited in pouring rain at the airport for several hours to see an Antonov An-22, for example. Without success – it arrived 30 min after I left. When the first A380 arrives at my local airport, you bet I’ll be out there waiting. Moreover, I sincerely doubt that even the most die hard warbird enthusiast fails to be impressed by the raw power and agility of an F-16 or Eurofighter display. One day they’ll be gone too. Were you bored and looked away the last time you saw a Luftwaffe F-4F Phantom? Might be too late to rethink that decision now, credible rumours have it that with immediate effect there will be no Luftwaffe flying displays until further notice. See what I mean?

Yes, I also enjoy classic jets (could someone send the Sea Vixen over here again, please?) 🙂

Grayfly,
Hang on a minute while I wipe the sleep out of my eyes, Wellllllllllll you know my thoughts on jets but in case you have forgotten they should have theire engines removed before being stuck on a pole having completed this task the engines should then be bolted to fuel bowsers and used to de-ice the runways so proper aircraft can take off, mmmmm excluding P51s’ who should join the jets eh YAK 11?

Tack, Kenneth, men åtminstone hade jag skäl att visa en av mina bilder, även om jag nu skäms!

@PapaLima:

Titta här…: http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13833

😀

The day a Lightning or Vulcan fly in this country again will prove how popular these jets are,the queues will be loooooong

But you’ll find me near the front!

but how often I overheard “enthusiasts” boasting with their knowledge:
A P-40 being was recognized as “Hurricane”, or a Hurricane became a “Spitfire” because of the roundels or a silver (Griffon) Spitfire becomes a “Mustang” because of the bubble canopy, etc. etc. etc. …

On Sunday, at Southend, one “knowledgeable” chap insisted that the Falcon’s Hercy Bird was a “Nimrod” – Why? What? How? – It has a refueling probe!

😮 😮 😮 😀

Just to put the record straight, after a bit of Googling around I see that the SF37 reconnaissance version will probably be the last to fly, and is due to be replaced by the reconnaissance Gripen around 2006. Sorry for my earlier mistake!

“How many heavy 4 engined heavy bombers do you know of capable of doing a barrell roll?!!”

Well, the Avro Lancaster for a second. (Castle Bromwich production a/c by two test pilots there at least – and yes, several times. See Aeroplane Monthly. And enough height, a shallow dive, really good piloting, and many many aircraft can do some kind of smooth, low g roll – but for a deformed god of metalwork you can’t beat a Vulcan. Brrummmm.

Cheers

Oops! That was the last original unmodified Viggen to be grounded, there are still a few operational ones left, after heavy modifications and upgrades! Come over here to Sweden, Ant, and let’s see if we can find one. Perhaps at the Halmstad Air Show on 12 June? I hope to be there with my camera.

4 Olympuses ripping the sky apart.
Sweet music indeed!

Sorry, Ant, as far as I know this was the last Viggen to fly, piloted by Lt Jussi Halmetoja – landing on 11 June 2001 at Malmslätt and handed over to the RSwAF Museum.

I would love to see one Vulcan flying rather than a squadron of spits!
Jets are good only as long as they have lots of smoke coming out the back. 😀 WW2 warbirds will always get the headlines. But for those of us of the age that Lightnings,Buccs,Vulcans etc were the staple diet of airshows of our youth these types will always be important.
I wonder what will happern to attitudes in 20 years time when sadly almost all the WW2 vetrans will have passed on? For me the 50’s would have been the most exciting time to have been about in. Loads off WW” aircraft still about along with those new fangled jets.

I’m pleased to say that my interests seem to be quite broad.If it flies,it holds some level of interest for me,everything from wood and wire to fly-by-wire. Whilst it’s probably true that the modern stuff doesn’t have the same ‘character’,it’s still mighty impressive to watch an F16 being put through its paces.Whilst a classic jet might not have the same widespread appeal as a Warbird,they come a very close second for me. I went to the Military Pageant show at OW last summer,and the Gnat display that opened the show was an equal hilight alongside the Spit,Hurri,Gladiator etc.
I think there’s also a blurred line between what’s modern and what’s classic,machines like the Canberra and T33 being still in service (albeit in ever-decreasing numbers),and even some of the more modern stuff like the Jaguar and Viggen are getting on a bit.I’ve never seen a Viggen fly,and I very much hope to see one before they are retired from service.

Buccsociety – as you started the thread, there just has to be a photo of the brick on here.